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Haven't we been berated as a society and a culture from the American Heart Association to the American Cancer Society, you name it? We have been beat over the head. "We must get tested! We must get tested early. We must get tested early and often! We must, we must, we must! You must, you must, you must! It will save us money. We will find ways to treat cancers before they become deadly, and we will save money."
Now all of a sudden it's overrated? Does the timing of this make anybody suspicious? Here we are in the midst of a free fall in support Obama's health care plan, not just the public option, but everything that's in it. And part of this is, "Well, too many tests are going on out there." Obama is running around saying (summarized) "We have too many tests and doctors are amputating too many feet and taking out too many tonsils to line their pockets -- and there's too much testing going on out there, and unnecessary tests are taking place, and this is driving up the costs," and just now conveniently here we are in the midst of the free fall in support, we get the American Cancer Society saying that there are "risks in early screenings and that the benefits of detecting many cancer..." Get that. "Detecting" means finding!
Rush is completely right...Obama likes European health care and I've written before from my experience in Europe...only mammograms after the age of 50 or in case of a suspicious lumb...pap smear test only after the age of 30 (one of my family members was lucky to have it tested on request and was tested positive at the age of 27 and being cured)...prostate exams only when a male has certain complains....
It is cheaper to let some one die than to do all these test...wait for Obama care and you get your proof your self or be smart and vote for reform....
Ins. to be bought over State lines, limit the lawsuits and go after health care fraud, and you will have the money to ins. many more people without taken our rights from us!
Haven't we been berated as a society and a culture from the American Heart Association to the American Cancer Society, you name it? We have been beat over the head. "We must get tested! We must get tested early. We must get tested early and often! We must, we must, we must! You must, you must, you must! It will save us money. We will find ways to treat cancers before they become deadly, and we will save money."
Now all of a sudden it's overrated? Does the timing of this make anybody suspicious? Here we are in the midst of a free fall in support Obama's health care plan, not just the public option, but everything that's in it. And part of this is, "Well, too many tests are going on out there." Obama is running around saying (summarized) "We have too many tests and doctors are amputating too many feet and taking out too many tonsils to line their pockets -- and there's too much testing going on out there, and unnecessary tests are taking place, and this is driving up the costs," and just now conveniently here we are in the midst of the free fall in support, we get the American Cancer Society saying that there are "risks in early screenings and that the benefits of detecting many cancer..." Get that. "Detecting" means finding!
Rush is completely right...Obama likes European health care and I've written before from my experience in Europe...only mammograms after the age of 50 or in case of a suspicious lumb...pap smear test only after the age of 30 (one of my family members was lucky to have it tested on request and was tested positive at the age of 27 and being cured)...prostate exams only when a male has certain complains....
It is cheaper to let some one die than to do all these test...wait for Obama care and you get your proof your self or be smart and vote for reform....
Ins. to be bought over State lines, limit the lawsuits and go after health care fraud, and you will have the money to ins. many more people without taken our rights from us!
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Originally Posted by cleanhouse
It is very interesting indeed. But watch the Lefties come on now and slam Rush for bringing this up.
All of a sudden catching cancer in its early stages is not important.
What a society we live in!
I understand being against this administrations policies, i get that. I also understand your concerns for the deficits and the cost of this health care package, i get that too. What i do not get is this beating of the drum on a wreckless statement concerning a deadly disease
It has ALWAYS been a focus by the Cancer Society as well as the Health department and CDC that everyone should get checked early ...but more importantly for things like Prostate and Breast Cancer. Tell you what, why don't you two ask a person that didn't get tested in time if they feel this is suspicious timing.
My mother - in law didn't and as of today she was moved to hospice care, we're just in a waiting pattern for her to let go.
I understand being against this administrations policies, i get that. I also understand your concerns for the deficits and the cost of this health care package, i get that too. What i do not get is this beating of the drum on a wreckless statement concerning a deadly disease It has ALWAYS been a focus by the Cancer Society as well as the Health department and CDC that everyone should get checked early ...but more importantly for things like Prostate and Breast Cancer. Tell you what, why don't you two ask a person that didn't get tested in time if they feel this is suspicious timing.
My mother - in law didn't and as of today she was moved to hospice care, we're just in a waiting pattern for her to let go.
Yes I 100% agree. But now there is chatter that there are too many screenings and tests being performed. Ie.. its getting too expensive.
Haven't we been berated as a society and a culture from the American Heart Association to the American Cancer Society, you name it...blah, blah, blah...
An intelligent person would go beyond the headlines and certainly wouldn't rely on Rush Limbaugh for information (and conspiracy theories) about the two multi-year and conflicting studies published in the New England Journal of Medicine, regarding very specific forms of cancer screening.
So instead of rushing off to Rush to uncover some nefarious fantasy of a plot, an intelligent person, in the age of the internet, would simply Google New England Journal Medicine cancer screening and you would get the following:
Yes I 100% agree. But now there is chatter that there are too many screenings and tests being performed. Ie.. its getting too expensive.
In a way I understand the point on too many tests, but you know what its needed in some cases. Now if you have a person that is a hydrocondriac who runs to the dr. for a stress test everytime they get a cold and their a smoker, then I agree that's suspect. But in the cases of Cancer, Heart and Lung problems diabetes you can never order too many tests.
An intelligent person would go beyond the headlines and certainly wouldn't rely on Rush Limbaugh for information (and conspiracy theories) about the two multi-year and conflicting studies published in the New England Journal of Medicine, regarding very specific forms of cancer screening.
So instead of rushing off to Rush to uncover some nefarious fantasy of a plot, an intelligent person, in the age of the internet, would simply Google New England Journal Medicine cancer screening and you would get the following:
In a way I understand the point on too many tests, but you know what its needed in some cases. Now if you have a person that is a hydrocondriac who runs to the dr. for a stress test everytime they get a cold and their a smoker, then I agree that's suspect. But in the cases of Cancer, Heart and Lung problems diabetes you can never order too many tests.
That is how I feel. We have the technology to catch the cancer there is no reason not to use it.
That is how I feel. We have the technology to catch the cancer there is no reason not to use it.
True so true.
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