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So your point is that a medical recommendation, based on the best available public health evidence, is the same as a government takeover of health care?
Is the same going to be true if private, for-profit insurance companies start applying this recommendation?
Get a grip, you guys!
When the government starts denying mammograms, based on medical recommendations? Yup - that's rationing.
Originally Posted by jackmccullough So your point is that a medical recommendation, based on the best available public health evidence, is the same as a government takeover of health care?
Is the same going to be true if private, for-profit insurance companies start applying this recommendation?
Get a grip, you guys!
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When the government starts denying mammograms, based on medical recommendations? Yup - that's rationing.
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Open your eyes, you guys!
Having read the article, I'd like for you to point out the part that says 'the government is denying mammograms', because I didn't see that part. What I did read is that a panel of doctors and scientists are recommending that regular mammograms not begin until a woman is 50.
Those who are unable to see how convenient this "new medical data" is, while pushing back the time frame for mamograms, just before we go under some government operated system are either naive, dishonest, or both.
And those who see black helicopters over every rise are what?
All in the name of cutting costs...having people die is cheaper than having every one having a mammogram and detect it early...like is happening in Europe for years...and we can't say they are also kind of death panels...since they decide if you can or can't get one...to me that is a death panel.
I thought rightwingers were against needless preventative medicine? You know, tort reform an' all. Please make up your minds.
The beginning????? You claim to work in health care and you honestly believe that health care is not already rationed?
Health Care Reform 101—About Rationing: US Health System is Rife with Rationing Already | Suite101.com (http://healthfieldmedicare.suite101.com/article.cfm/health_care_reform_101_about_rationing - broken link)
As for this particular 'news', I know that a lot of women suffer from breast cancer, but, from my perspective it's become the 'disease of the week' magnified over the last ten years. More women die from heart or lung disease every year than from breast cancer.
Dr. Nancy is talking about this now and she reminds us that even though it is a government task force - it is still a group of doctors with experience in this field. We shouldn't dismiss the science behind their recommendation, just because we don't like the message.
And, the fact remains that unless you have coverage, you ain't getting an elective mammogram no matter what your age.
Really doesn't matter what the particular facts are. The Obamatrons will adjust their position to fit the new position of BO (Das Feuer) regarless of what it is.
Those who are unable to see how convenient this "new medical data" is, while pushing back the time frame for mamograms, just before we go under some government operated system are either naive, dishonest, or both.
Anyone who believes this is incredibly naive about how science works.
Since you're obviously so educated in the field of medical science, why don't you show us point-by-point where the study fails.
Really doesn't matter what the particular facts are. The Obamatrons will adjust their position to fit the new position of BO (Das Feuer) regarless of what it is.
I am in my early 40's. I personally know three women who had breast cancer detected before their 40's. All are my age and one died when she was 35. It was too far advanced and I sat with her during her last days in Hospice. This is crap. Get your mamograms at age 40. Better to know early either way than to know too late.
I'm sorry to hear that. HOWEVER, routine mamograms at 40 did nothing to help your 35 year old friend, and most women who get them after 40 never have breast cancer but may have false positives that cause some damage to their lives. So what would the solution be? Think about that.
Could determine medical insurance reimbusement for the exam. If the recommended frequency is every 2 years after 50, that may be all health insurance may reimburse. Otherwise, it could be on you.
Exactly. No one is saying you can't have one, but you might have to pay for it if your insurance company won't do it. It's also known as personal responsibility, which I thought Republicans favored.
BTW, I don't have vision insurance, even though my daughter and I both wear corrective lenses. When we need them, I pay for them. My dental insurance only pays for check-ups. When I needed crowns and when she had cavities, I paid for them. Just because insurance won't pay for it doesn't mean you can't have it.
Also, if people fear their health care is "rationed," maybe they'll take better care of themselves--stop smoking, maintain a healthy weight, get some exercise. An ounce of prevention....
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