Why is racism against Latinos tolerated? (illegal aliens, stats, Hispanics, high school)
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Most do learn the language very quickly. In many cases they are far smarter then the average American who can't even speak their own language correctly. They come here, work hard and advance. While people who were born into all the opportunities this country has to offer sit an watch TV fat and drunk complaining. Moderator cut: Flaming/Trolling
This could be many cities in Central and South FL, unfortunately. I have been in the store in Avalon Park and the lous speaker came on to make an announcement... everything was in spanish.
Interesting...seems that most people want to reduce this to a hatred of "illegal immigrants." I can't help but think that there's a healthy dose of dishonesty being shown here, since Florida simply does not have the same problem with illegal immigration as states such as Texas, Arizona, and California that border Mexico. The vast majority of Cubans are legal. Puerto Ricans are US citizens, the last time that I checked. And the majority of the remainder of Florida's Latino community consists of legal and documented immigrants - citizens and citizens-to-be - from Central and South America. Florida's illegal alien community is relatively small, and it is not causing the state to fall apart at the seams.
So...can we stop the pretense? If hearing Spanish makes you cringe, you don't have a "problem with illegals" - you have a problem with people of a certain background, period. And my point is that, in this day and time, we should not hesitate in condemning this type of racism, bigotry, and intolerance. It is absolutely no different than the woman who, upon seeing a group of middle-class Black teenagers, instinctively clutches her purse in fear.
Interesting...seems that most people want to reduce this to a hatred of "illegal immigrants." I can't help but think that there's a healthy dose of dishonesty being shown here, since Florida simply does not have the same problem with illegal immigration as states such as Texas, Arizona, and California that border Mexico. The vast majority of Cubans are legal. Puerto Ricans are US citizens, the last time that I checked. And the majority of the remainder of Florida's Latino community consists of legal and documented immigrants - citizens and citizens-to-be - from Central and South America. Florida's illegal alien community is relatively small, and it is not causing the state to fall apart at the seams.
So...can we stop the pretense? If hearing Spanish makes you cringe, you don't have a "problem with illegals" - you have a problem with people of a certain background, period. And my point is that, in this day and time, we should not hesitate in condemning this type of racism, bigotry, and intolerance. It is absolutely no different than the woman who, upon seeing a group of middle-class Black teenagers, instinctively clutches her purse in fear.
I was reading your post and it made me think. Since Puerto Rico is a US territory, what difference is there between the PR flag wavers and "Texas nationalism" (don't mess with texas, the republic of texas, etc.). I find the Texas behavior more annoying and pointless, myself.
that's funny because Puerto Ricans are US citizens by birth so basically it's a cultural clash with you.
Moving to Orlando from Miami has made me relive the animosity I went through as a American of Cuban descent growing up in Miami during the early 80s. I can remember the refugee jokes even though I was born here, the "will the last American leaving Miami please bring the flag" billboard on I-95 heading north out of Dade County. The xenephobia expressed by many "whites' that the Cubans were taking over and this is not America anymore to as recently as Tom Tancredo and his buffonery stating that Miami is a third world country.
Now tell me why should someone of another culture not "race" since hispanic is not a race be friendly to whites when you demoralize as human beings simply because we have different cultures and a language?
I live in Orlando too. The PR's (not all - many from NY) are not nice, in fact many are very rude and arrogant. Sense of entitlement. Almost all my caucasian neighbors (all 3 of us, lol) and many of my friends and family say the EXACT same thing. Are we all just "seeing things?" I think not. But that's not to say there arent some really good ones too.
The Latino immigrants of this generation are no different than any immigrants to America in the past. They come here to establish a better life for themselves and their families, obey our laws and pay taxes, and enrich our collective society with their traditions and customs. The only anti-American forces in this debate are the people who want to wall themselves up in their 99% white communities (which makes me wonder why they haven't moved to Nebraska or Kentucky yet, as opposed to staying in South Florida and being miserable because they have to - *gasp* - live around people with a different skin tone...)
You need to qualify that by inserting the word "legal," otherwise they aren't law abiding, they are criminals for being in the country illegally. And that goes for any race, creed, color, ethnicity, etc. If they are here illegally, they are criminals. Irish, Russian, Haitian, Mexican, or Canadian, it's all the same. If they are here illegally they are criminals and need to be deported.
By the way, I live in an upscale gated community. My neighbors are Brits, Asian Indian, Chinese, black, Hispanic, and some of your run of the mill "American" mixed in for good measure. Not all gated communities are the bastions of white supremecy you are implying.
Interesting...seems that most people want to reduce this to a hatred of "illegal immigrants." I can't help but think that there's a healthy dose of dishonesty being shown here, since Florida simply does not have the same problem with illegal immigration as states such as Texas, Arizona, and California that border Mexico. The vast majority of Cubans are legal. Puerto Ricans are US citizens, the last time that I checked. And the majority of the remainder of Florida's Latino community consists of legal and documented immigrants - citizens and citizens-to-be - from Central and South America. Florida's illegal alien community is relatively small, and it is not causing the state to fall apart at the seams.
So...can we stop the pretense? If hearing Spanish makes you cringe, you don't have a "problem with illegals" - you have a problem with people of a certain background, period. And my point is that, in this day and time, we should not hesitate in condemning this type of racism, bigotry, and intolerance. It is absolutely no different than the woman who, upon seeing a group of middle-class Black teenagers, instinctively clutches her purse in fear.
Correct and Mecklenberg County in NC was at one time 3rd highest in the nation for illegal Mexican immigrants 250,000 estimated in the metro area. I don't care what language they choose to speak, but to insist the schools provide spanish speaking teachers it a bit much to me. So much so...let me explain. To be a "substitute teacher" who is BI Lingual in Spanish in Charlotte NC, all you have to be is a high school graduate. However if you are not bi lingual and want to be a substitute teacher you must have a teaching degree. Racism reversed?
If you want to see what can happen with uncontrolled immigration into one area , visit Concord NC and see what happened to the original part of town.
I lived there, I saw it, I dealt with it, and saw my own mother in law turned down for medicade (she's on 700.00 a month SS) because the county ran out of medicade benefits, I'll let you guess why.
The problem I have with TODAYS immigrants is that they are illegal. When most of our previous generations came, the border was open. Hence no crime committed.
A crime is a crime is a crime, no getting around it. Also previous immigrants from earlier times, didn't come here and ask for teachers to be provided in their schools who speak their language (IE I give you Charlotte NC and spanish) previous immigrants didn't ask for a hand out and or assistance.
Section 8 housing, free medical, food stamps and the like.
Therein lies a huge difference when people start quoting about the immigrants that founded this country. Huge huge huge difference.
ASSIMILATE it can be your friend.
People want to come here, fine, do it legally, learn English, and don't use America's welfare system as your means to survive. America isn't asking you to forego your own language and your own customs, but don't expect the US to keep bending over backwards to accomodate yours.
Illegal immigrants are not starting car dealerships or pool companies or moving companies and employing thousands of employes. They don't meet payrolls and paying millions in taxes. I don't care about illegal's in regard to what I said, they don't apply. Immigrants come here and are successful and those born here don't have a clue to the value their own country. That was my point. If you want to blame all your problems on immigrants you are welcome to do so. It won't make your life any better, Moderator cut: Personal Attack/Trolling/Flaming It's just a convenient excuse.
er wow....I don't have any problems let alone "all my problems"
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