Calif state Supreme Court upholds Prop 8 ban on same-sex marriages (Obama, March)
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There is already talk of it being on the ballot for 2010. It will eventually pass and same sex marriage will be recognized here in California, it's only a matter of time.
Yep, all the right wing religious nuts were against interracial marriage some 50 years ago too...in fact, some of them still are. However, times change and soon gays in this country will be afforded all the rights the rest of us take for granted.
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It would be nice if less government benefits were unrelated to marital status...
We aren't smart enough for that...
I agree. you should be able to leave your social security benefits to anyone, and I think that the insurance company should decide whether or not to cover domestic partners. I am sure there are plenty of gay friendly insurance companies out there.
There is a little thing called the 2nd Amendment. Having a gun is an actual constitutional right.
Property rights are protected via the constitution, and many property rights are protected via legal marriage. Could argue that in a roundabout way the constitution would protect those property rights.
I agree. you should be able to leave your social security benefits to anyone, and I think that the insurance company should decide whether or not to cover domestic partners. I am sure there are plenty of gay friendly insurance companies out there.
I don't know about PLENTY but there are some out there.
I have yet to really face the the penalties of not being married...
There are lots of things that married people benefit from that shouldn't be tied to marital stastus.
What will likely happen is DOMA will either be repealed or overturned, at least as it pertains to the federal government recognizing same-sex marriages (other states may not be required to recognize them).
Some people may bring state constitutional challenges to laws banning same-sex marriage and courts in those states may or may not uphold the laws.
There'll be more and more attempts to amend state constitutions to either ban or legalize same-sex marriage and/or to recognize those performed in other states.
I'm not sure how long it'll go on for.
I just can't seem to think of a situation that will end this once and for all except in the case that all states and the fed recognizes same-sex marriages.
Obviously there could be some way to end it in favor of those against and I might be blinded by my opinions- but probably not.
As for a time frame, I'm guessing twenty or more years. From the first state to the sixth didn't take much time at all but those last ten or so are going to take a lot of coaxing.
race relations comments from maine? really? maine? how are race relations in the only city in maine that has any race that isn't white? lewiston. how do the citizens of lewiston view the scum sucking somilians abusing their welfare system?
I don't refer to others as "scum". Do you live here? Even in the tiny town I live in there are those of us that aren't "white".
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I don't know about PLENTY but there are some out there.
I have yet to really face the the penalties of not being married...
There are lots of things that married people benefit from that shouldn't be tied to marital stastus.
they system sucks. look at parents. I am forced to pay taxes to send their kids to school, health care, and whatever. then when tax time comes, many parents get the child tax credit. so they use more in services, and pay less in taxes. the system is broken.
the constituion had never been amended to limit the rights or pursuit of happiness of a person.
we know marraige is a right because the Loving case deemed it so.
it afforded blacks the right to marry whomever they chose.
marriage is a right.
and normally the courts exist to protect the minority from the TYRANNY of the Majority.
it didnt work out in this case, but its coming.
CA will see marriage equality. if it comes in the form of Civil unions for all, who knows. but domestic part. and civil unions should have the same protection and rights as regualr marraiges do.
inheritance, taxes, children, etc
its coming.
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Yes. As it should have been. Regardless of my personal views on the subject, the people do have the right to work to change the Constitution (U.S. or state) to either expand or deny rights.
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