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Old 05-26-2009, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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i'm pretty sure the total is 1800, not 18,000..

And you'd be pretty wrong...

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The California Supreme Court upheld Tuesday a ban on same-sex marriages that state voters passed in November, but it allowed about 18,000 same-sex marriages performed before the ban to remain valid.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/05/26/cal...rss_topstories
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Old 05-26-2009, 11:47 AM
 
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marriage isn't a right. if it is, then it discriminates against couples who choose to live together without signing a contract with the devil, which in this case is the government.
I can't argue with that, but it is treated as such in the eyes of the law and a lot of legal protections come from being married. It's pretty unfair to block that from homosexuals and allow it for heterosexuals. As a matter of fact a lot of property rights are protected via marriage and homosexuals would be/are stripped of these protections.

In other words I'd be for just getting rid of the institution of marriage since it's crap, but I'm realistic and know that would never happen.
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Old 05-26-2009, 11:47 AM
 
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Next its' the people of Maine's turn to overturn the gay marrige law passed by this state's misguided legislature. Thanks for the precedent California.
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Old 05-26-2009, 11:47 AM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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I was convinced the court would find some way to vacate the results of a legitimate vote.

I'm surprised.

I think those that were allowed to marry should not be able to hold a marriage license. Give them a civil union certificate with all the benefits and laws that are bestowed from a real marriage between a man and a woman.
Has the same sex marriage license changed your marrige license?
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Old 05-26-2009, 11:48 AM
 
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And you'd be pretty wrong...
Wasnt sure which is why I said "I'm pretty sure", just thought I heard 1800 somewhere, maybe they were wrong or I misheard it

Thanks for the link
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Old 05-26-2009, 11:50 AM
 
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I'm sure some folks also praised the Dredd Scott decision.
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Old 05-26-2009, 11:51 AM
 
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Give them a civil union certificate with all the benefits and laws that are bestowed from a real marriage between a man and a woman.
This is what I don't understand. If same-sex unions get the same rights who cares about the semantics? Why do you care whether or not it's called marriage?

If it's a Christian/church issue, then do you want anyone who marries in a religious ceremony to be "Married" (keep in mind many religions allow same-sex marriage, even some Christian churches) and anyone married outside of a religious ceremony to be in a "Civil Union"?

One problem though is that some states, such as Oregon, offer civil unions to same-sex couples that don't have nearly the same legal benefits as marriage offers.
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Old 05-26-2009, 11:52 AM
 
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So stop marriage for all and just call them civil unions? Would that be ok with all the heterosexuals?
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Old 05-26-2009, 11:52 AM
 
Location: um....guess
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Apparently that's all you've been able to do the last couple days. Too much of a strain to actually type anything?
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Old 05-26-2009, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Texas
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So what is it? A reward?
It may be a right in your opinion, but it's not a right granted by the United States Constitution.

Personally, I wouldn't care either way whether same-sex marriage was legal in California or any other state or even here in Texas.

Do I think it's a right? Sort of....but it's clearly not a constitutional one.
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