Prop 8 passing: California will ban Gay Marriage (statistics, programs, Arkansas)
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We were discussing Nambla... It's an acronym for National Man Boy Love Association.
I know what it is.
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What you are bringing up is rape, and pedophilia. Which fortunately there are still laws against their freedom to do disgusting things to children, even when consentual.
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You brought it up by bringing up NAMBLA. All I did was point out that it doesn't always take place between men and boys. It certainly is neither hetero nor homosexual, though.
You brought it up by bringing up NAMBLA. All I did was point out that it doesn't always take place between men and boys. It certainly is neither hetero nor homosexual, though.
I don't know of a pedofile group that is advocating its perversion, and having the ACLU represent its position.
And this is irrelevant, but the ACLU does not support their goals. The ACLU defended their right to free speech--that is all.
Because my comment was based on extreme gay activists wanting to destroy traditional family values.
That is the point of all this, someone said how does this destroy traditional family values..
I gave some examples of gay agenda's that wish to do just that.
I have children, i don't want them to have to hear about disgusting and immoral lifestyles before they have a grasp and positive example of healthy and wholesome lifestyles.
It's enough to have to explain why two men are kissing and holding hands. They know down to their core that it is wrong, and just like i shield them from porn, or violence, or whatever else i choose to shield them from, i'd like for them to have a childhood before handing out pledge cards in kindergarten on how two men having sex is normal.
Because my comment was based on extreme gay activists wanting to destroy traditional family values.
That is the point of all this, someone said how does this destroy traditional family values..
I gave some examples of gay agenda's that wish to do just that.
I have children, i don't want them to have to hear about disgusting and immoral lifestyles before they have a grasp and positive example of healthy and wholesome lifestyles.
It's enough to have to explain why two men are kissing and holding hands. They know down to their core that it is wrong, and just like i shield them from porn, or violence, or whatever else i choose to shield them from, i'd like for them to have a childhood before handing out pledge cards in kindergarten on how two men having sex is normal.
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That doesn't answer the question or address it at all. You said there's a difference between the people NAMBLA supports and pedophiles. I asked what it is.
Gay people are not pedophiles. Straight people are not pedophiles. Bisexual people are not pedophiles. And on and on. So your objection to NAMBLA is unrelated to your objection to homosexuality.
We've had this argument before, and it's futile to continue, but seeing as how I've mindset to attack anything anti-same-sex marriage after the news I received the morning after the presidential election, I'll waste my time.
No one is born with the mindset that being gay is wrong. Someone has to put that in his head.
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Whether you think it is immoral or not, we shouldn't legislate morality when it affects no one but the individual. Now before you talk about murder or robbery- those do hurt others. 2 consenting same sex adults getting married doesn't hurt anybody at all. The only reason to oppose it is bigotry.
We've had this argument before, and it's futile to continue, but seeing as how I'm in the mindset to attack anything anti-same-sex marriage after the news I received the morning after the presidential election, I'll waste my time.
No one is born with the mindset that being gay is wrong. Someone has to put that in his head.
THat is where you are so wrong... I never said a thing to my kids about gays, until they saw two men and two women kissing sensually.
They are homeschooled and not in groups where people discuss it.
They knew instantly something was wrong, and i just listened and watch their faces in horror to such a thing....
Are you really that desensitized, you realize that up until a few years ago Ellen lost her job because of a kiss like that on her television show... do you really think gay choices are normal and acceptable behavior in our society. It is wrong and not normal. It comes from abuse, insecurity, wanting to be accepted, acting out against society, spiritual influences, and so on... It is something that people can overcome. I've seen it happen many times, people realizing the error, and walking away from being gay.
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