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The best option for Russia is to keep the war going, bankrupt Europe, find more allies(eg Saudi Arabia, Turkey, etc), wait till the democrats lose in the fall, wait till the US strategic petroleum reserve is fully drained, wait till every European government is overthrown after riots caused by electricity bills and hyperinflation, start building the Altai Gas Pipeline to China, keep the conflict locked in place while China ramps up domestic semiconductor production, wait till the US is in a severe recession/depression and our Debt-to-GDP ratio skyrockets while interest rates remain high in our desperation to stop hyperinflation, have China continue ramping up rhetoric about an invasion of Taiwan to turn this into a two-front war against America(but China should never actually invade Taiwan), wait till Joe Biden is impeached over the Hunter Biden laptop business dealings "for the big guy" and the attempted quid-pro-quo with Saudi Arabia to get democrats reelected once Republicans take both houses of congress, get Trump back in the presidency.
And then the alarm went off and you woke up and had to go to work. Dream on.
BRRRRRP!
Now there's a fail. After WW2 we made Germany and Japan and, later, South Korea, our trading partners.
That made the world the incredibly rich place it is now.
Russia subjugated its conquests and ruined them. That's what eventually made North Korea what it is now. The rest of the conquests eventually wiggled free.
OMG what are you doing bringing facts into this thread?
Russia subjugated its conquests and ruined them. That's what eventually made North Korea what it is now. The rest of the conquests eventually wiggled free.
Not exactly. There was significant economic-growth in the Soviet Union, just nowhere near as much as in the West(and the Soviet Union started far behind the west to begin with). What really killed the Soviet Union was the Sino-Soviet split and the invasion of Afghanistan attracting the ire of the Muslim world.
North Korea was richer than South Korea for the first couple decades, but North Korea was heavily dependent on the Soviet Union. As the Soviet Union began to falter, so did North Korea(and Cuba). There would have been no North Korean famine had the Soviet Union not collapsed.
I don't think it makes sense for Putin to do that. That would be an admission that he made a mistake.
It makes sense if he truly wanted peace. He made a mistake and the whole world sees said mistake. He would rather have bloodshed than put an end to his terrible planning.
It makes sense if he truly wanted peace. He made a mistake and the whole world sees said mistake. He would rather have bloodshed than put an end to his terrible planning.
He would have never attacked the Ukraine in the first place if he wanted peace.
International law. And what does Crimea have to do with the rest of Ukraine that Russia has invaded and devastated?
International law includes self-determination. Polls before the 2014 coup showed Crimea favoring separation from Ukraine, and nearly everyone in Crimea speaks Russian and is ethnically-Russian. Crimea held a referendum with international monitors who agreed that the results of the referendum were legitimate.
Eastern Ukraine was also pro-Russian even before the coup, and the same rule would apply. Support for separation in the Donbas was overwhelming.
Ukraine is basically like Spain who refuses to allow the Catalonians to hold a referendum for independence. They think they can subjugate peoples who hate them because no one will stop them.
I live in a country where a large part of the country tried to gain independence, but it was also crushed. The reality is, you can never gain independence unless someone helps you.
The Ukrainian Defense Ministry claimed on Thursday that Iran is using Ukraine as a testing ground for its drones to prepare for future drone attacks on Israel.
What is foolish is to keep pushing Pootin's buttons to escalate. ...
Putin is the one pushing buttons. He has been antagonizing the USA and western Europe for years now. The fact that Britain, France and the USA are all nuclear powers didn't stop him. Plus he has been using us as an excuse to suppress democracy in his own country. This is Putin's game, it is entirely him.
If you had given your same advice to Putin, what would he have said?
He probably would have said "let me show you the view from this window".
You can't negotiate with terrorists. It is not where we want to be, but it's where we are at.
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