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There is no such thing as DNR / LNR, which is INDISPUTABLE fact.
The so-called DNR / LNR is Ukrainian territory that has been occupied by Russian punks since 2014.
Now now, they're just Russians. No need to call them names, being called Russian is bad enough.
Some rumors say that Russian is going to declare they have annexed some of Ukraine, and threaten nukes to anyone that tries in take it back by saying its Russia.
This is the most idiotic idea I have ever heard. The world 100% will not back down. So lets look at some possibilities if Russia uses a nuclear weapon.
If they do a demonstration strike with no large death, Then they have a couple issues.
1. China has a treaty with Ukraine to come to their defense if they are ever attacked with a nuclear weapon. We will find out if China keeps it word or not.
2. The world will make the new sanctions that will destroy Russia. And they 100% will not be messing around.
3. and nothing will change. Russia will have to escalate to get a more serious response, but even this event will get them sanctions that look like the others were games.
If they hit a troop concentration, or a city. All bets are off. The world will NOT back down. At that point? China might actually keep their promise. Or not. But the possibility of a nuclear exchange begins. Russia thinks they can do a limited nuclear exchange from some folks, but lets get real. Its going to escalate. Once nukes are used the losses for everyone get insane.
My guess? If they do this NATO crushes them in a conventional war within Ukraine, and makes it clear any use of nukes against NATO troops will be met with nukes targeting Putin. Thats a minimum. Alternatively the nuclear exchanges begin. Russia might try to do limited exchanges to see if they can make people afraid of them. Thats not a workable idea. Once anyone loses a city they will be out for blood. Things will be bad.
I think they are actually a danger to Russia more than the world.
NATO and US do not need nukes to entirely obliterate Russia. So in order to even have a prayer of being successful Russia must send nukes in every direction all at once and they all must be successful everywhere in the world, destroying US, France, UK, Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, Israel. All at once.
Not plausible.
No matter what type of nuke they use, Russia is doomed because of it. They know that.
Pretty much.
Even if Russia maintained their nuclear weapon delivery systems, and that's a big if, and even if they can accurately hit all these places, another big if, this would turn the world they live in to Chernobyl.
That makes no sense.
Surely, this has not escaped everyone's attention, has it?
Now now, they're just Russians. No need to call them names, being called Russian is bad enough.
Some rumors say that Russian is going to declare they have annexed some of Ukraine, and threaten nukes to anyone that tries in take it back by saying its Russia.
This is the most idiotic idea I have ever heard. The world 100% will not back down. So lets look at some possibilities if Russia uses a nuclear weapon.
If they do a demonstration strike with no large death, Then they have a couple issues.
1. China has a treaty with Ukraine to come to their defense if they are ever attacked with a nuclear weapon. We will find out if China keeps it word or not.
2. The world will make the new sanctions that will destroy Russia. And they 100% will not be messing around.
3. and nothing will change. Russia will have to escalate to get a more serious response, but even this event will get them sanctions that look like the others were games.
If they hit a troop concentration, or a city. All bets are off. The world will NOT back down. At that point? China might actually keep their promise. Or not. But the possibility of a nuclear exchange begins. Russia thinks they can do a limited nuclear exchange from some folks, but lets get real. Its going to escalate. Once nukes are used the losses for everyone get insane.
My guess? If they do this NATO crushes them in a conventional war within Ukraine, and makes it clear any use of nukes against NATO troops will be met with nukes targeting Putin. Thats a minimum. Alternatively the nuclear exchanges begin. Russia might try to do limited exchanges to see if they can make people afraid of them. Thats not a workable idea. Once anyone loses a city they will be out for blood. Things will be bad.
Russia is a rabid bear thats a danger to us all.
If Russia launches a nuclear attack, I doubt sanctions is what we will be talking about.
The response will be immediate and is already underway. "Build up of defense posture," is the phrase I've been reading.
If Putin launches even one nuclear weapon, wouldn't the NATO response be to take out all their nuclear weapon sites?
After all these years, these sites are quite likely known, and targeted with long-range weapons. Are there long-range, non-nuclear weapons that can reach such sites deep in Russia?
To make this work, Russia would have to be assured of wiping out NATO nations with a first strike.
Then what?
In an article about the probably outcome of a nuclear exchange,
"the vast majority of the human population would suffer extremely unpleasant deaths from burns, radiation and starvation, and human civilization would likely collapse entirely. Survivors would eke out a living on a devastated, barren planet."
If Putin launches even one nuclear weapon, wouldn't the NATO response be to take out all their nuclear weapon sites?
After all these years, these sites are quite likely known, and targeted with long-range weapons. Are there long-range, non-nuclear weapons that can reach such sites deep in Russia?
To make this work, Russia would have to be assured of wiping out NATO nations with a first strike.
Then what?
In an article about the probably outcome of a nuclear exchange,
"the vast majority of the human population would suffer extremely unpleasant deaths from burns, radiation and starvation, and human civilization would likely collapse entirely. Survivors would eke out a living on a devastated, barren planet."
You people are crazy. Why would Russia use nuclear bombs?!? They have been going out of their way not to hurt Ukrainian civilians for 5 months now... Russia does not need to use nukes to achieve its goals.
The only ones talking about nuclear bombs are the morons in the West, especially warmongers in the US and UK.
Military dronesUkraine (UAF) on July 20 four times attacked the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant (NPP). This was announced on July 20 in the press service of the administration of the city of Energodar, where this enterprise is located.
“Four times Ukrainian UAVs attacked the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant today. The last attack was recorded at 16.01 (Moscow time)”, — quotes"RIA Novosti" message from local authorities.
Earlier that day, Vladimir Rogov, a member of the main council of the military-civilian administration (MAC) of Zaporozhye, said that three kamikaze drones attacked the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant. At the same time, according to him, the zone where the reactors are located was not affected. Lavrov announced the tasks of the special operation outside the DPR
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LPRRussian Foreign MinistrySergei Lavrov said that the geographical objectives of the special military operation in Ukraine have changed. Now it is not only the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics (DPR and LPR), but also a number of other territories, he said in an interview.RT andRIA Novosti.
According to the minister, the changes occurred, among other things, due to suppliesKiev multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) HIMARS. Lavrov pointed out that while the West is pumping Kyiv with more and more long-range weapons, the geographical objectives of the special operation will be pushed back. He explained this by saying thatMoscow cannot allow that in that part of Ukraine, which will be controlled by the country's presidentVladimir Zelensky or his successor, there was a weapon that poses a direct threat to the territories of Russia and the republics that declared their independence.
“As regards the special military operation and geographic coordinates,President Vladimir Putin] said very clearly, as you quoted him: denazification, demilitarization – in the sense that there are no threats to our security, military threats from the territory of Ukraine, this task remains,” he explained. Lavrov also stressed that at the talks inIstanbul , the Russian side, when considering the Ukrainian proposal, relied on the geography of the end of March 2022. Now, the Foreign Minister noted, it has changed.
“This is far from being only the DPR and LPR, it is also the Kherson region, the Zaporozhye region and a number of other territories, and this process continues, and continues consistently and persistently,” the minister concluded.
DONETSK, July 20 - RIA Novosti. Ukrainian nationalist battalions near Avdiivka play the role of barrage detachments, shooting mobilized Ukrainian conscripts who are trying to surrender or retreat,informedRIA Novosti Deputy Battalion Commander of the 9th Regiment of the People's Militia of the Donetsk People's Republic with the call sign "Khokhol".
"Of course, they are here. But mostly they are detachments. Detachments that do not allow the retreat of the airmen. They do not allow the ordinary conscripts or mobilized to leave, who were driven here simply for the sake of numbers, and who are dying like flies, let's say. Because they do not have the opportunity to surrender. These detachments shoot in the back. Or, if you step back, they shoot right at point-blank range, "said an officer of the People's MilitiaDNR.
There is no such thing as DNR / LNR, which is INDISPUTABLE fact.
The so-called DNR / LNR is Ukrainian territory that has been occupied by Russian punks since 2014.
Actually, there is and you need to do your fact check, before posting blatant falsehood. Does not help with reputation.
WORLD is not just US/GB/ and what's left of EU. Those republics exist and already recognized as such.
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