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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 201 39.88%
No 254 50.40%
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Old 09-01-2023, 05:22 PM
 
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I think the situation is a little more complex: Opinion: U.S. throws France under the bus after Niger coup



I don’t think France takes kindly to being humiliated by Washington

And?

What are they going to do about it?

After US already destroyed Germany, France can't stand on its own, and it has no one to lean on.

Because they never accepted Russia/Putin as equal, as democratic leader, as much as he was trying to cozy up and to pretend that his government is no different from old Europe's govs.

So what I see here as a bigger picture, is the systematic destruction of European heritage, that's taking place simultaneously in Europe and US.
(Add Russians and Ukrainians killing each other there at the same time.)
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Old 09-01-2023, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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ISW Update 9/1/23

https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...ptember-1-2023

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Sep 1, 2023 - Press ISW

Ukrainian Main Military Intelligence (GUR) Head Kyrylo Budanov reported that the Russian military deployed elements of a newly created “reserve army” (the 25th CAA) to enable units currently on the frontline in Luhansk Oblast to laterally redeploy to defend against the Ukrainian counteroffensive in southern Ukraine. Budanov stated on August 31 that the Russian military deployed elements of the newly formed 25th Combined Arms Army (reportedly formed under the Eastern Military District) to replace elements of the 41st Combined Arms Army (Central Military District) in the Kupyansk direction, and that these elements of the 41st Combined Arms Army (CAA) began a “slow” redeployment to an unspecified area in southern Ukraine. Elements of the 41st CAA’s 35th Separate Guards Motorized Rifle Brigade and 90th Tank Division participated in the failed Russian winter 2023 offensive operation in Luhansk Oblast and have continued limited offensive activity along the Svatove-Kreminna line through now. These units are likely degraded and have been operating without brigade and regiment level rotations like many frontline Russian units throughout the theater. ISW previously assessed that a lack of operational reserves would force the Russian command to conduct further lateral redeployments and make tough decisions about what sectors of the front to prioritize.The Russian military command appears to have deployed elements of the newly formed and likely low quality or understrength 25th CAA to Luhansk Oblast to free up the relatively more effective 41st CAA elements for southern Ukraine. Budanov added that elements of the 25th CAA are already participating in hostilities in Luhansk Oblast.
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Old 09-01-2023, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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Denys update...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAyfSt-lZQA
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Old 09-01-2023, 08:42 PM
 
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Here is a partial reading list on the USNATO/Russia-Ukraine conflict.

Please comment and add your own.

1. Benjamin Abelow - How the West Brought War to Ukraine

2. Stephen F. Cohen - "War with Russia?" Published 2018

3. Margaret Sarotti - "Not One Inch"

4. William J. Burnes - "Backchannel" - Chapter 6 - Published 1019

5, William Perry - "On the Brink" - Chapter 10

6. Biography of Putin published 2015 - "The New Tsar" - Chapter 15.

Additional names to google to read their writings about Ukraine-Russia in the 1990s
George Kennan Strobe Talbot

"Nyet means Nyet" - memo by then Russian Ambassador William J. Burns exposed on Wikileaks

Some newspapers have paraphrased all of the above in article that can be found via Google.
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Old 09-02-2023, 12:16 AM
 
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Germany didn't want to send anything. Germany was constantly pressured to send more and only agreed to send Leopards if America sent Abrams. Germany sent Leopards, America still hasn't sent Abrams. Germany has been getting pushed around by the United States. We even blow up Nordstream and they say and do nothing.

With friends like America, who needs enemies?

Abrams tanks already been shipped. They likely to be delivered to Ukraine very soon.
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Old 09-02-2023, 04:15 AM
 
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10 Russian fuel trucks destroyed by missile attack in Luhansk.


https://youtu.be/ndNPH2A6FV4
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Old 09-02-2023, 06:54 AM
 
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10 Russian fuel trucks destroyed by missile attack in Luhansk.


https://youtu.be/ndNPH2A6FV4
And why don't Ukrainian bots post their other "great victories"?

Great victories!!!
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Old 09-02-2023, 07:21 AM
 
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Russian howitzer destroyed by HIMARS. Lovely ammo cook off too. Howitzers are still the most used weapons in the war. Russia started the invasion with a huge stockpile but their numbers are dropping as Ukraine gets better at targeting and destroying them.


https://youtu.be/Yg_NUko7TTA
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Old 09-02-2023, 07:52 AM
 
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Yeah whoopty doo. They advanced 1.5 kilometers. Just another 117 kilometers and they will reach the Sea of Azov and cut off Russia's land bridge. But that will be years away, probably decades.
It isn't linear. Most of those kilometers are empty fields and roads. Once the fortified front defense lines are overtaken the advance will be quite rapid. It is not uncommon for vicious front line battles to rage evenly for a long time before it reaches a tipping point that leads to overwhelming victory by one side. Note WWII. I'm not saying it will happen this month or next month but it will happen.
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Old 09-02-2023, 08:49 AM
 
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Ukrainian technicians gradually have been fitting the Leopard 2A4s with blocks of locally-made Kontakt explosive reactive armor. The ERA explodes outward when an incoming shell or missile strikes it, thus partially deflecting the blast.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...h=7b2d43af352a
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