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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 201 39.64%
No 257 50.69%
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Old 08-17-2023, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Bad news for the woke warmongers:

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U.S. intelligence says Ukraine will fail to meet offensive’s key goal
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The U.S. intelligence community assesses that Ukraine’s counteroffensive will fail to reach the key southeastern city of Melitopol, people familiar with the classified forecast told The Washington Post, a finding that, should it prove correct, would mean Kyiv won’t fulfill its principal objective of severing Russia’s land bridge to Crimea in this year’s push.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...location=alert

The warmongers will respond with:
1. Send Zelensky $40 more billion
2. Claim the Washington Post is now Putin Propaganda and
3. Copy/past more YouTube videos of Russian helicopters being shot down

Folks, we are still waiting for that “Russia collapse” any moment now….

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NATO official: Kyiv may have to cede territory to Russia in exchange for membership
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/08/16/...mbership-.html

Welp, time to claim CNBC is “Putin propaganda” too.
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Old 08-17-2023, 11:13 PM
 
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They had one before. Then Russia attacked. Peace treaties are not honored by Russia.
Yeah, Russia is not known to honor treaties.
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Old 08-17-2023, 11:15 PM
 
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Moscow attacked again. No information on exactly what was hit or damages yet.



https://youtu.be/iDana-pnbdc

This guy is quick. A YouTube search does not show any other story about this new attack.

Last edited by davidt1; 08-17-2023 at 11:32 PM..
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Old 08-18-2023, 12:55 AM
 
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So Russia didnt invade and isnt forcing their own people to fight in Ukraine? Yet you have a problem with Ukraine doing it?

Russia invaded in response to American meddling in Ukraine.

But you already know it by now.

If Ukraine would have opened border by now, then we would know for real how many people still want to defend this regime in Kiev, that brought this misery with its desire "to join NATO."
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Old 08-18-2023, 12:58 AM
 
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They had one before. Then Russia attacked. Peace treaties are not honored by Russia.

Which one, Minsk agreement?

But Blinken said that it was a bad agreement and Ukraine shouldn't abide by it.
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Old 08-18-2023, 12:59 AM
 
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You have more patience than I do. Why even bother to respond to a nonsense post like that?

Yep, still waiting for answers.

But they keep on making up stories instead of it.
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Old 08-18-2023, 03:42 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Russia invaded in response to American meddling in Ukraine.
And how is that a justification for invading a neighboring country?
This was not about NATO. NATO had voted against considering Ukraine for membership (same with Georgia). The Russian President even met with the NATO leadership (in Europe), and was told NATO wasn't interested in a membership bid from Ukraine (contrary to what 3 US Presidents had told him). So what was the real reason?
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Old 08-18-2023, 03:56 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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update from the front...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c02GondSI0
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Old 08-18-2023, 05:36 AM
 
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Russia invaded in response to American meddling in Ukraine.

But you already know it by now.

If Ukraine would have opened border by now, then we would know for real how many people still want to defend this regime in Kiev, that brought this misery with its desire "to join NATO."
And yet, Russia is the one who invaded but you know that by now and seem to be fine with it. A shame really.
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Old 08-18-2023, 05:37 AM
 
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And how is that a justification for invading a neighboring country?
This was not about NATO. NATO had voted against considering Ukraine for membership (same with Georgia). The Russian President even met with the NATO leadership (in Europe), and was told NATO wasn't interested in a membership bid from Ukraine (contrary to what 3 US Presidents had told him). So what was the real reason?
I just dont understand that reasoning. It really doesnt make sense to me at all.
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