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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 209 40.04%
No 263 50.38%
Unsure 50 9.58%
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Old 06-06-2023, 01:26 PM
 
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My favorite, most reasonable sources say they think the dam simply failed.
But Russia will always be blamed for it. That's the price they have to pay for invading a country while having a reputation for being a country of thugs and terrorists.

The dam failed right before the counter offensive? Yeah right. Russia blew it up, out of desperation, to try to impede Ukraine's counter offensive. Looking at this long-term, it is a sign that Russia will give up Crimea.
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Old 06-06-2023, 01:31 PM
 
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The dam failed right before the counter offensive? Yeah right. Russia blew it up, out of desperation, to try to impede Ukraine's counter offensive. Looking at the picture long-term, this is a sign that Russia will give up Crimea.
Exactly. An act of desperation for sure.
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Old 06-06-2023, 01:48 PM
 
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We are used to being bombed by the Russians. The flooding is bad, but not as bad as being bombed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7942JY_lik
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Old 06-06-2023, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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My favorite, most reasonable sources say they think the dam simply failed.
This is the first thing you've said in a while that wasn't heavily biased. I figured you would take the position of the other shills. I give you props for not being a bot. I just roll my eyes at 80% of the posters here. Pointless to even talk to them because they don't care.
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Old 06-06-2023, 02:21 PM
 
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Artur Rehi on the dam destruction.


https://youtu.be/gRbKz_j1rbc
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Old 06-06-2023, 02:38 PM
 
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"What makes things worse is that the east coast of Dnieper river was heavily mined by the Russians in anticipation of Ukraine’s counteratack. These mines are now randomly carried by the floodwaters and occasionally exploding.

Photos of mines washed up by the flood, exploding, ...

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/202...-without-water

When it is all said and done, this may all work out. Mines are exposed. Crimea runs low on water, and Ukraine holds the line until things dry up. By then, those F-16s might be in the mix.
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Old 06-06-2023, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Artur Rehi on the dam destruction.


https://youtu.be/gRbKz_j1rbc
He leaves off the part that Ukraine had cut off water to Crimea long ago. It was only restored by the Russians after they invaded Ukraine.

Like it or not, this was a brilliant move by Putin. He just stopped the Ukraine offensive dead in its tracks. Now there is no threat of Ukraine marching into Crimea anytime soon. The Russians can now pull virtually all of their troops out of Kherson and move them to Zaporizhia and Donetsk to fend off the Ukraine offensive there.

Even if Russia is losing this war, which remains to be seen, they just bought themselves at least another year.
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Old 06-06-2023, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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He leaves off the part that Ukraine had cut off water to Crimea long ago. It was only restored by the Russians after they invaded Ukraine.

Like it or not, this was a brilliant move by Putin. He just stopped the Ukraine offensive dead in its tracks. Now there is no threat of Ukraine marching into Crimea anytime soon. The Russians can now pull virtually all of their troops out of Kherson and move them to Zaporizhia and Donetsk to fend off the Ukraine offensive there.

Even if Russia is losing this war, which remains to be seen, they just bought themselves at least another year.
I would withhold making any conclusions on this just yet. This wreaks of desperation.
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Old 06-06-2023, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Like it or not, this was a brilliant move by Putin. He just stopped the Ukraine offensive dead in its tracks. Now there is no threat of Ukraine marching into Crimea anytime soon. The Russians can now pull virtually all of their troops out of Kherson and move them to Zaporizhia and Donetsk to fend off the Ukraine offensive there.
You do realize the floodwaters will only last a week, and that by draining the reservoir between the dam and Zaporizhzhia, instead of a wide lake there will be 150 miles of river with islands that will make rapid deployment of mobile pontoon bridges possible. Thus necessitating Russia to build more fortifications along the river, and making its current fortifications useless.

Basically, this stretches and weakens the Russian lines.
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Old 06-06-2023, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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...and now, Ukraine has the opportunity to respond in kind, destroying Russian dams.
I wonder who has more dams to dismantle?
Is there a dam-busting gap to overcome?
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