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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 201 39.64%
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Old 05-16-2023, 11:16 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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“Aeroflot asked its employees to stop reporting malfunctions on planes, Proekt reported.”....................
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How reassuring. One hopes Ivan likes taking the train.
I've been kind of waiting for the Russian airline system to fall apart. Last summer there were numerous reports of Russian planes being cannibalized. There were plenty of planes, though, because international flights had been greatly reduced. No one is legally providing parts or service so flying in Russia is become increasingly dangerous. At some point it may become impossible.



Meanwhile, the railroad industry as its own problems revolving around spare parts and machinery needed to make a huge railroad system work. Critical railroad car bearings were reported to be in short supply. Bearings are also used in tanks. Forbes recently released an article titled "What is Perfectly Round, Made of Metal, and is Keeping Russia from replacing 20,000 Tanks Lost in Ukraine"? That article included this quote:
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The Russians have a choice. Build more tanks and let the rail system fall apart. Or keep the trains moving, and slow tank-production.
Russia is grinding to a halt because of sanctions and boycotts. If they pulled out of Ukraine tomorrow neither sanctions not boycotts would end for many months, maybe years.
Russia is not like America where highways are essential. In Russia, railroads and air travel are essential.
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Old 05-16-2023, 11:22 AM
 
Location: NYC
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I've been kind of waiting for the Russian airline system to fall apart. Last summer there were numerous reports of Russian planes being cannibalized. There were plenty of planes, though, because international flights had been greatly reduced. No one is legally providing parts or service so flying in Russia is become increasingly dangerous. At some point it may become impossible.



Meanwhile, the railroad industry as its own problems revolving around spare parts and machinery needed to make a huge railroad system work. Critical railroad car bearings were reported to be in short supply. Bearings are also used in tanks. Forbes recently released an article titled "What is Perfectly Round, Made of Metal, and is Keeping Russia from replacing 20,000 Tanks Lost in Ukraine"? That article included this quote:

Russia is grinding to a halt because of sanctions and boycotts. If they pulled out of Ukraine tomorrow neither sanctions not boycotts would end for many months, maybe years.
Russia is not like America where highways are essential. In Russia, railroads and air travel are essential.
Realistically, there are plenty of dysfunctional countries in the world and planes aren't just falling out of the sky. Sure, Russian quality of life will take a hit but this isn't going to make or break them.
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Old 05-16-2023, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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So - not "in weapons that explode", like someone claimed upthread?
That is correct. And as you said, mushroom clouds don't require nukes.

I just wanted to point out that DU is radioactive and that if DU was in that explosion, the entire area would be contaminated. I simply do not believe the US government when it claims DU is safe.

I know the United States doesn't care if Ukraine's soil is radioactive for the next thousand years, but you would think Ukraine would.
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Old 05-16-2023, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Russia’s FSB sent ex-Islamic state fighters to infiltrate Ukraine, Turkey, U.S.

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Ukraine said in January 2023 that it had exposed more than 600 Russian agents.
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U.S. authorities have detained around 50 Russians suspected of being FSB agents at the U.S.-Mexico border since Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022
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Old 05-16-2023, 12:18 PM
 
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The depleted uranium may not cause a mushroom cloud, but the munitions stored there in the form of ammunition, artillery shells, explosives, rockets, gasoline, and other flammable war materiel would have, and did. The depleted uranium just went along for the ride in that cloud. And perhaps it did ignite as well. But the plethora of flammable munitions definitely did.
I agree. But it seemed like some were trying to make this out to be a thermonuclear explosion, which it certainly was not.
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Old 05-16-2023, 12:30 PM
 
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I agree. But it seemed like some were trying to make this out to be a thermonuclear explosion, which it certainly was not.
Yes, agree. Not a thermonuclear explosion.
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Old 05-16-2023, 01:04 PM
 
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I've been kind of waiting for the Russian airline system to fall apart. Last summer there were numerous reports of Russian planes being cannibalized. There were plenty of planes, though, because international flights had been greatly reduced. No one is legally providing parts or service so flying in Russia is become increasingly dangerous. At some point it may become impossible.



Meanwhile, the railroad industry as its own problems revolving around spare parts and machinery needed to make a huge railroad system work. Critical railroad car bearings were reported to be in short supply. Bearings are also used in tanks. Forbes recently released an article titled "What is Perfectly Round, Made of Metal, and is Keeping Russia from replacing 20,000 Tanks Lost in Ukraine"? That article included this quote:

Russia is grinding to a halt because of sanctions and boycotts. If they pulled out of Ukraine tomorrow neither sanctions not boycotts would end for many months, maybe years.
Russia is not like America where highways are essential. In Russia, railroads and air travel are essential.
I would think they have to keep the trains running. Isn't that how they transport weapons, and ammo to the soldiers?
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Old 05-16-2023, 01:34 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Realistically, there are plenty of dysfunctional countries in the world and planes aren't just falling out of the sky. Sure, Russian quality of life will take a hit but this isn't going to make or break them.
Russia covers 990,000 square miles and is 6,700 miles wide. They have 144 million people to transport and Aeroflot alone transported 21.4 million passengers, but S7 transported 17 million. None of the other dysfunctional countries come even close to those parameters.


If you are looking for "the thing" that will make or break Russia you will be looking a long time. They will break for a thousand reasons.
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Old 05-16-2023, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Niceville, FL
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Realistically, there are plenty of dysfunctional countries in the world and planes aren't just falling out of the sky. Sure, Russian quality of life will take a hit but this isn't going to make or break them.
The thing is, Russia’s aviation safety record really wasn’t great even before the war made parts sourcing difficult. The international routes for Aeroflot and S7 were generally pretty safe in the name of staying in the good graces of EU aviation regulators, but if you’re trying to get between something like Magadan and Krasnoyarsk, then the cracks have long been there.

That Russia wasn’t at Indonesia levels of aviation mishap in 2019 or so is a reflection is that there are some very excellent pilots there who are able to work miracles with what they’re given and prevent a lot of disasters.
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Old 05-16-2023, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I always admired Russian hardware and pilots being able to fly in extremely cold weather/climates. Mechanical parts and fluids don’t always operate the best in cold weather that’s present in that part of the planet.
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