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Old 05-05-2023, 03:13 PM
 
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From what I've read, the Wagner soldiers are the best fighters of the Russian bunch.

Now, they are packing up from Bakhmut and heading to somewhere else. Complaints about not getting the ammunition they requested.

What does this mean?

They were a mix of prisoners and mercenaries. The prisoners, not being solders, are mostly dead. The mercenaries are not getting paid what they expected so they are going to move on to more lucrative battlefields.
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Old 05-05-2023, 03:15 PM
 
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Can you give me a link pls?

I want to make sure that we are on the same page, because there were couple of them out there lately.
Look, simply got to Telegram and look up Wagner Group R. Exactly like this. Have at all of their videos first hand.
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Old 05-05-2023, 03:17 PM
 
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Don't see any Heil Ukraine messages about them shooting down indestructible hypersonic missile with Patriot system over Kyiv.
It didn't happen. Was refuted by the Ukraine ministry of defense several times. Newsweek has entire article on it.
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Old 05-05-2023, 03:22 PM
 
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Something strange is happening with that boorish Prigozhyn statement about withdrawal. NO COMMENTS. Nowhere. I mean, no one serious, not just parrots. Dead silence on Wagner channel, from the reputable analysts, from Kremlin.
Interesting.
I think it's part of the game. Right before the infamous counteroffensive..... to say that - hey, we are going to open a breech in our defense on day such and such and in place such and such. Hmm....

Btw, Zaporizhzhya governor ordered evacuation of the pre front regions. Major panic.
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Old 05-05-2023, 03:27 PM
 
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They shot their officers, took their guns and went to overthrow the government? I'm OK with that.

Apparently you are "OK" with it, because you hope that it's the likes of Navalny that will take over after that.

But his approval in Russia now is at 1%.

I assume because people associated with him were involved in the terrorist attack in St. Petersburg, while collaborating with Ukrainians.

Therefore, whatever happens next in Russia - it won't be the likes of Navalny at the helm.

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Old 05-05-2023, 03:34 PM
 
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They were a mix of prisoners and mercenaries. The prisoners, not being solders, are mostly dead. The mercenaries are not getting paid what they expected so they are going to move on to more lucrative battlefields.
Thanks.

Will they be getting more money and ammunition if they are in other parts of Ukraine?
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Old 05-05-2023, 03:36 PM
 
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In other news, according to a senior Ukrainian military intelligence official, "Russia has moved most of its Black Sea Fleet warships from its primary base in Crimea to safer waters in Russian territory."

https://www.newsweek.com/russian-war...kraine-1798646

Also, a fuel depot on the Russian side of the bridge is ablaze.
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Old 05-05-2023, 03:58 PM
 
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In other news, according to a senior Ukrainian military intelligence official, "Russia has moved most of its Black Sea Fleet warships from its primary base in Crimea to safer waters in Russian territory."

https://www.newsweek.com/russian-war...kraine-1798646

Also, a fuel depot on the Russian side of the bridge is ablaze.

Do your sources ever report on what's ablaze on Ukrainian side and why?

For example after recent Russian attack on Pavlograd?
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Old 05-05-2023, 04:04 PM
 
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Bakhmut on fire: Russia uses phosphorus bombs en masse

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/5/7400917/

Article includes video of fire
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Old 05-05-2023, 04:07 PM
 
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They were a mix of prisoners and mercenaries. The prisoners, not being solders, are mostly dead. The mercenaries are not getting paid what they expected so they are going to move on to more lucrative battlefields.

*Sigh.*
Where are you getting all these "news" from?
Because going to the original source - i.e. what Prigozhin said in his video, "Wagner" is NOT moving on to more lucrative battlefields."
They are moving to their campgrounds, "until the Russian people will need our help again" - that's what he said.
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