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This is so amazing... It would be amusing if the situation wasn't so dire. Just because the EPA has silenced scientists doesn't mean climate change isn't real or that it won't continue to impact everyone. What's happening now is not dependent on you believing in it.
Here's the thing about science: It's not supposed to be anecdotal. With AGW, it's anecdotal. No scientist can tell us what % of AGW humans account for, what the %'s are year to year, what the decrease in temperature would be if we did X, how long it would take, etc.
Last I checked (a couple years ago) the top scientists were saying that if the entire planet went back to the stone age tomorrow, we would not slow climate change for at least 100 years, if at all, because it's only theoretical. They also theorized that in 200 years, we could see a reversal of temperatures. Forget all the fraudulent science, the fudging of the data, the outright lies, the climate scientists quitting the IPCC due to the base politization of the science. What's more concerning is the ever changing goal posts opf this new pseudo science. 10 years ago the most alarming claim was that less than 1% of AGW was caused by humans. Then it became 5%. Then it jumped to 30%. Then it shot up again anecdotally to "Most of it" is caused by humans. How could it go from 1/2% to the vast majority in under ten years? What new evidence was uncovered? The answer of course is that there has been no new evidence, but people walking around saying man is only accountable for 1/2% of climate change does not support the narrative, so up, up, up, up it went with nothing but theories to back it up.
Without government grants many scientists would never have the time and money to do any research. They would be stuck in some corporate development lab or counting trees for the timber company.
Greg I would suggest the most intelligent scientists or those that would have been scientists are already in the private sector. e.g. mathematicians can go to Wall St. and start out making ridiculous amounts of money. There is exceptions like the super intelligent who would have difficulties getting funding from the private sector because it's such a giant gamble or there is no way to make a profit on it e.g. theoretical physicist.
The Cultural Revolution of China, from half a century ago, has been reincarnated in our nation. In China, university professors were rounded-up and murdered, to implement the anti-intellectual purge. The purpose of course, wasn't to bring any benefit to the people of that country, but rather to increase the power of the political dictatorship and to regiment the unwitting students and other younger people, into carrying-out actions against resistors.
Of course here, the stooges in this revolution are just the opposite of the students and other young people of China. They are the older, ignorant and unemployed rednecks, in the flyover states. In a slip of the tongue (one of many), Trump said how much he liked uneducated people. He'd be nowhere without them.
Oh yes, the D's are all so well read & sophisticated. Where would the D's be without uneducated Blacks & immigrant peasants keeping them afloat?
This is so amazing... It would be amusing if the situation wasn't so dire. Just because the EPA has silenced scientists doesn't mean climate change isn't real or that it won't continue to impact everyone. What's happening now is not dependent on you believing in it.
I don't blame people for being skeptical of man-made global warming. It seems like an extraordinary claim: humans changing the climate of the entire planet, despite our obvious insignificance compared to the size of the earth. It seems preposterous that something like the earth's climate could be so sensitive to a change in a trace gas like carbon dioxide that is measured in parts per million.
But scientists have known since the mid 1800s that carbon dioxide absorbs strongly on the infrared. Any engineering thermodynamics textbook will have a section on the radiative properties of various gasses. The earth's temperature has risen about 1C in the last 100 years, with most of that warming occurring since 1980. Every few years we set a new all-time global temperature record.
During the last 30 years, there has been no corresponding increase in the sun's heat (which is measured by satellites). But there has been a rapid increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide levels. So the most likely explanation is that the warming is being caused by the increase in carbon dioxide levels.
It's the exact same strategy. Create a bunch of doubt in the minds of people who have no scientific training. Appeal to emotions and promote falsehoods. The good news is tobacco denialism lost. The vast majority of people rightly believe smoking will give you cancer or heart disease and send you to an early grave. And in the end, climate denialism is doomed to lose as well.
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Where would the D's be without uneducated Blacks & immigrant peasants keeping them afloat?