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Old 03-31-2016, 07:15 AM
 
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Funny. Was in India in February, where on at least a couple of occasions, hotel restaurants catering to tourists; mainly Western (meant to connote European and North Americans) and Japanese, had Oriental as the menu subheading. I have always thought of India as being an Asian country, certainly South Asian. Why they did not choose Chinese I do not know. Maybe a holdover from colonial times, since that period just ended ~50 years ago.

I swanee, this cracker, though more appropriately hillbilly, is amazed at the hypersensitivity of folks these days. Must be a sign of a beyond developed society, in which we have so much idle time to ponder the many mini micro-offenses of others.

 
Old 03-31-2016, 07:29 AM
 
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Are Coloured and Oriental Racist Words?


Only if white folks say them, everyone else is fine.
 
Old 03-31-2016, 07:31 AM
 
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never understood the hysteria behind using the term oriental. it's much more precise than 'Asian.'
 
Old 03-31-2016, 07:34 AM
 
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My 86 year old mother still uses the term chinaman. Swears it is not racist that it is just the term she has always used.
it shouldn't be any more offensive than using the term Mexican or Canadian. that is, if it's used correctly - calling a Korean or Vietnamese that may cause some issues
 
Old 03-31-2016, 07:45 AM
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it shouldn't be any more offensive than using the term Mexican or Canadian. that is, if it's used correctly - calling a Korean or Vietnamese that may cause some issues
I've noticed that Koreans bristle when others think them Chinese. Personally, I don't mind when non-Asians can't tell the different Asian nationalities apart.

My mother used to comment to me in the late '70's that she herself couldn't tell the (physical) difference between Chinese and Japanese people. However, if they happened to be wearing a camera around their neck, she would guess them to be Japanese. Meanwhile, my mother enjoyed using a camera and she was Chinese.
 
Old 03-31-2016, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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All people have color. No one is colorless.

We don't call people "Occidentals." Besides exactly whose point of reference do we use when we call a person an "easterner" (Oriental) ... Hawai'i and California are due east of China and Japan.
England.


That's why it's not "the Orient" or "Far East" but Asia.
 
Old 03-31-2016, 07:51 AM
 
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My best friend and college roommate was Asian and told me he finds Oriental offensive so I never use that term but I didn't know it was offensive till he told me. Coloured person seems to be a racist term like whitey.
 
Old 03-31-2016, 07:52 AM
 
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it shouldn't be any more offensive than using the term Mexican or Canadian. that is, if it's used correctly - calling a Korean or Vietnamese that may cause some issues
If it was used correctly you'd call them Chinese.


A chinaman is derogatory. It points back to colonial times when if you weren't white, you weren't a full person, and used chinaman as a catch-all for all Asians. It's not overtly racist, it just makes you look like a doofus.
 
Old 03-31-2016, 07:55 AM
 
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My best friend and college roommate was Asian and told me he finds Oriental offensive so I never use that term but I didn't know it was offensive till he told me. Coloured person seems to be a racist term like whitey.
Again, it refers to a colonial period when Asians were treated as inferior.


The Orient was the novel term posted by Europeans as a label. Asians never called it the Orient.


It's sort of like when the English (it's always the English) still refer to the US as "the Colonies" in a superior manner. It's not racist, it just is a comment that tries to elevate them above you, and at the same time sort of pisses off the natives.
 
Old 03-31-2016, 08:44 AM
 
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Nope. Using these terms just mean you are old. Like ancient old. Everybody knows that if the younger ones want to "offend" They would have chosen different terms.

lol
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