Judge orders lesbian couple to surrender their child to be given to hetero couple (state, claim)
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Yes. Really. We know you're a homosexual from what you've posted about yourself and if you want to get "married" you can now. However, homosexual couples make for terrible parents and an even worse home life for children.
OK?
Sorry, dude. I'm a conservative and I have to disagree with you.
Now, if you want to talk about the super-crazy in-your-face types, I can possibly agree with that. Reference the thread about the 6-year old here on C-D. I really can't believe that just the act of being gay makes you a bad person or a bad parent. Do I agree with their lifestyle? Not necessarily. But to paint with that broad of a brush is wrong. Give a same-sex couple the same benefit of the doubt a hetero couple gets. Only if they screw up, then remove the child.
I still feel like there may be a few things we are missing here. We all know there is judicial activism, but why here? Why this case? Was this the first shot this judge got to do his bidding? Or is there something we don't know? I'll contend that none of us can make a fair judgment unless we sat in that courtroom and heard the proceedings.
As far as studies go, we all know those are often skewed towards the desired result. This argument needs to be put to bed until, as unlikely as it is, the transcripts can be read.
There are some, but Gays and Lesbians are 5 time more likely to have an attempted suicide in their past then Heterosexuals. In my mind suicidal people aren't exactly stable and shouldn't be raising children.
Now, if the the couple is normal and have no evidence of an unstable history in their past I would say the judge is wrong
Yes. Really. We know you're a homosexual from what you've posted about yourself and if you want to get "married" you can now. However, homosexual couples make for terrible parents and an even worse home life for children.
OK?
No and I can imagine some who would make an even worse parent.
There are some, but Gays and Lesbians are 5 time more likely to have an attempted suicide in their past then Heterosexuals. In my mind suicidal people aren't exactly stable and shouldn't be raising children.
Now, if the the couple is normal and have no evidence of an unstable history in their past I would say the judge is wrong
Well the state agency in Utah supported the couple,as did the birth mother.Utah law allows gays to adopt,the couple already have adopted children.The republican governor is supporting the couple.
The judge based his decision on a belief that in general children should be raised be two straight parents.His ruling was not based on any issue regarding this specific couple,only on the 'type' of couple they are.
It would seem to me that since the couple has met the standards for adoption set by the state government and the state legislature,[in one of the most conservative,republican,religious states in the US],and is being supported by the appropriate state agencies and officials,and the birth mother, it should be obvious that this is a case of judicial activism at its worst.
Supporters of this judge should be careful what they wish for....Using similar reasoning a judge in Massachusetts might decide that in his/her opinion gay couples make better parents so all straight adoptions that come before him/her will be denied.A judge in Ca might feel that black children should only be raised by blacks and deny white adopters,even if there are no black adopters.A judge in NYC may decide that only atheists should be allowed to adopt children because she feels that religious indoctrination is tantamount to child abuse.
People need to look past their prejudices and always consider the 'law of unintended consequences' before high-fiveing some judge,legislating from the bench,who stuck it to some gays.If we allow judges to enact legislation from the bench,[and unfortunately it happens all too often],we can't complain when a judge sticks it to one of 'our' groups.
Well the state agency in Utah supported the couple,as did the birth mother.Utah law allows gays to adopt,the couple already have adopted children.The republican governor is supporting the couple.
The judge based his decision on a belief that in general children should be raised be two straight parents.His ruling was not based on any issue regarding this specific couple,only on the 'type' of couple they are.
It would seem to me that since the couple has met the standards for adoption set by the state government and the state legislature,[in one of the most conservative,republican,religious states in the US],and is being supported by the appropriate state agencies and officials,and the birth mother, it should be obvious that this is a case of judicial activism at its worst.
Supporters of this judge should be careful what they wish for....Using similar reasoning a judge in Massachusetts might decide that in his/her opinion gay couples make better parents so all straight adoptions that come before him/her will be denied.A judge in Ca might feel that black children should only be raised by blacks and deny white adopters,even if there are no black adopters.A judge in NYC may decide that only atheists should be allowed to adopt children because she feels that religious indoctrination is tantamount to child abuse.
People need to look past their prejudices and always consider the 'law of unintended consequences' before high-fiveing some judge,legislating from the bench,who stuck it to some gays.If we allow judges to enact legislation from the bench,[and unfortunately it happens all too often],we can't complain when a judge sticks it to one of 'our' groups.
Good. Child will be safe in a normal sane traditional home now with a mom and a dad. Good job judge!
Disagree.
Many - MANY - heterosexual couples are insane, dysfunctional, harmful environments whether they are "traditional" or not. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with it.
Gay and lesbian couples are capable of creating healthy nurturing homes for children.
This decision is being appealed.
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very good points. you win the thread
