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Standardized tests are not used to educate children. They are used to evaluate them.
They shouldn't be the ONLY way to evaluate them, but if you left it to the teachers unions they want kids evaluated based on the teacher's feelings.
Devolution of Arithmetic Tests
1960s Arithmetic Test:
"A logger cuts and sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is four-fifths of that amount. What is his profit?"
'70s new-math test:
"A logger exchanges a set L of lumber for a set M of money. The cardinality of set M is 100. The set C of production costs contains 20 fewer points. What is the cardinality of Set P of profits?"
'80s "dumbed down" version:
"A logger cuts and sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost is $80, his profit is $20. Find and circle the number 20."
'90s version:
"An unenlightened logger cuts down a beautiful stand of 100 trees in order to make a $20 profit. Write an essay explaining how you feel about this as a way to make money. Topic for discussion: How did the forest birds and squirrels feel?"
The tests usually reflect what the school is looking for. They aren't calculating for diversity, that's not the point of the tests. The point is to find the students that will do well in the environment and sometimes that means those who do well on the tests. Why can't there just be other schools that base enrollment on racial percentages or whatever and see how well they work out? If the POINT is diversity then it will do well. If the POINT is having whatever it takes to do well on a test then maybe it wont. Redefine "elite" and "successful" while you're at it because pretty soon there won't be any excuses left for why some races aren't doing well and people are going to have to face the music.
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Why would any institution use ONLY a test as the sole determinant for entry? Even colleges don't do that. .
actually that is exactly what some colleges do. You can have a 4.0 and be in what ever club you can name, but have less than a 24 on the ACT and you wont get in.
The tests usually reflect what the school is looking for. They aren't calculating for diversity, that's not the point of the tests. The point is to find the students that will do well in the environment and sometimes that means those who do well on the tests. Why can't there just be other schools that base enrollment on racial percentages or whatever and see how well they work out? If the POINT is diversity then it will do well. If the POINT is having whatever it takes to do well on a test then maybe it wont. Redefine "elite" and "successful" while you're at it because pretty soon there won't be any excuses left for why some races aren't doing well and people are going to have to face the music.
Exactly just open up schools for the top Black and Hispanic kids who didn't get in to the elite schools.
Why would any institution use ONLY a test as the sole determinant for entry? Even colleges don't do that. .
The Chinese ran their efficient bureaucracy for thousands of years based on a rigorous test. I believe the French still base admittance into their elite schools on test alone. Diversity doesn't factor in because technically there is no race in France.
Tests are more fair than family background, race etc. Is it perfect no but it's objective.
The Chinese ran their efficient bureaucracy for thousands of years based on a rigorous test. I believe the French still base admittance into their elite schools on test alone. Diversity doesn't factor in because technically there is no race in France.
Tests are more fair than family background, race etc. Is it perfect no but it's objective.
youve said yourself in the past that you used your race as a factor to get into schools because you didnt have the grade.
Uh, no it means other factors like grades and class rank should be taken in consideration.
...and whether they drink Big Gulps.
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