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Old 10-14-2013, 06:53 PM
 
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by pnwmdk View Post
Is this some kind of problem?

There's lot of unemployed people in the world, and oddly enough, resumes count for little, in terms of competence.
Have you been keeping up the past 10 years??



Some in this country break laws and rules with impunity. Others are crucified for petty, non-violent offenses that hurt no one.


Which is worse? Someone who smokes marijuana or someone who steals millions?

 
Old 10-14-2013, 06:59 PM
 
Location: USA
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We should drug test all professional jobs and hand out punishment for anyone who fails. We should start with lawyers, politicians, and the Financial Industry.


Would be the quickest way to end the drug war.
 
Old 10-14-2013, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Your choice. But to consider this. If it was you that had the criminal record, and you needed a job, wouldn't you want someone to give you a job? Or would you be willing to spend the rest of your life unemployed?
The What if game? In the military we called that a blivot. 10 pounds of BS in a 5 pound sack.
The fact is that those who didn't commit crimes earned a higher status than those who felt that victimizing others is acceptable.
Robbing a store wasn't an accident or a brief lapse in judgment. Raping the neighbors wife wasn't an oops moment. Selling meth, crack or heroine to high school kids wasn't a mistake or a minor error in judgment.
These criminals cared not a thing for their victims. They have earned the life that awaits them, it is not punitive. It is the end result of their decision making.
 
Old 10-14-2013, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Pa
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We should drug test all professional jobs and hand out punishment for anyone who fails. We should start with lawyers, politicians, and the Financial Industry.


Would be the quickest way to end the drug war.
I'm all for that. I get drug tested where I work and I don't have a problem with it. I wouldn't have a problem with the death penalty for drug dealers. The exception being weed.
 
Old 10-14-2013, 07:12 PM
 
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Have you been keeping up the past 10 years??



Some in this country break laws and rules with impunity. Others are crucified for petty, non-violent offenses that hurt no one.


Which is worse? Someone who smokes marijuana or someone who steals millions?
I dunno, it's hard to tell. You call "stealing millions (billions and trillions, actually) to squander for votes "doing good" when the government does it.

But, degree is immaterial. Both are breaking the law. And I don't want people who break the law in charge of ** my ** money. Explain how that's bad.
 
Old 10-14-2013, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Somewhere Out West
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When I lived in the U.S. I can and did hire an individual with a criminal record. This person served several years in a federal prison for sex crimes. He did his time and I was happy to give him a chance. Throughout the term of his employment (I left to return to Canada), he was exemplary in his work. He continues to be employed there and from what I hear, is still a great employee.

Everyone needs a second chance.
 
Old 10-14-2013, 07:18 PM
 
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I dunno, it's hard to tell. You call "stealing millions (billions and trillions, actually) to squander for votes "doing good" when the government does it.

But, degree is immaterial. Both are breaking the law. And I don't want people who break the law in charge of ** my ** money. Explain how that's bad.
Your completely off the mark.


One is a victimless crime where an individual is expressing his God given right to use a plant medicinally or recreationally that harms no one. It is also completely non-lethal.


The other can affect thousands if not more and is sometimes done with pure ill intent to others and has a much higher financial downside to the whole of society.




There's a big difference.



People try to argue putting "God" on everything, how bout be about it first.
 
Old 10-14-2013, 07:23 PM
 
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When I lived in the U.S. I can and did hire an individual with a criminal record. This person served several years in a federal prison for sex crimes. He did his time and I was happy to give him a chance. Throughout the term of his employment (I left to return to Canada), he was exemplary in his work. He continues to be employed there and from what I hear, is still a great employee.

Everyone needs a second chance.
Everyone has the option of risking THEIR means on giving second chances. I applaud doing so with sober judgment. You just don't get to do it in positions of trust, where someone ** else's ** means is at risk.
 
Old 10-14-2013, 07:25 PM
 
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Your completely off the mark.


One is a victimless crime where an individual is expressing his God given right to use a plant medicinally or recreationally that harms no one. It is also completely non-lethal.


The other can affect thousands if not more and is sometimes done with pure ill intent to others and has a much higher financial downside to the whole of society.




There's a big difference.



People try to argue putting "God" on everything, how bout be about it first.
I'm sorry, YOU are off the mark. It is not up to me to decide what is immaterial for SOMEONE ELSE. BOTH have a proven record of breaking the rules. Feel free to offer someone a job AT YOUR EXPENSE. Not at mine - I'll do the same, if so inclined.
 
Old 10-14-2013, 07:29 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Gtownoe View Post
Your completely off the mark.


One is a victimless crime where an individual is expressing his God given right to use a plant medicinally or recreationally that harms no one. It is also completely non-lethal.


The other can affect thousands if not more and is sometimes done with pure ill intent to others and has a much higher financial downside to the whole of society.




There's a big difference.



People try to argue putting "God" on everything, how bout be about it first.
Ironic that the RWNJ fringe, who commonly call themselves Christian, are the first ones to judge a book by its cover, to hold grudges, and to not forgive. They are nothing but modern day Philistines.
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