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Old 08-22-2013, 01:16 PM
 
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"Outside of the federal government's Bureau of Labor statistics, the Gallup polling organization also tracks the nation's unemployment rate. While the BLS and Gallup findings might not always perfectly align, the trends almost always do and the small statistical differences just haven't been worthy of note. But now Gallup is showing a sizable 30 day jump in the unemployment rate, from 7.7% on July 21 to 8.9% today."

Gallup: Unemployment Rate Jumps from 7.7% to 8.9% In 30 Days

What is this about? The article is a straight reporting piece. No opinion as to why is offered so don't shoot the messenger for thinking they have an agenda. Do you think Gallup made a mistake? If not, what could be the cause? I can't believe they would make the data public without checking if it is right when it shows such a big difference.
Gallup also had Romney beating Obama.

 
Old 08-22-2013, 01:17 PM
 
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It's because you are STILL referring to an article that was published in June 2012, which talked about savings dropped between 2007 - 2010 !!!

Family net worth plummets 40% - Jun. 11, 2012
Here you are- Fresh charts for 2013!

As we can see, things have continued to get worse for the middle class. Liberals, of course, choose to deny any reality as they must face the facts of thier economic failures.

Middle Class Decline Under Obama Shown in 5 Charts - Money Morning

Of course, Obama's assault on the middle class is planned, as it increases his constituency base (The Curly Effect). More poor people= more democrat votes

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/mark-he...-middle-class/
 
Old 08-22-2013, 01:20 PM
 
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Real unemployment is 80%. As long as Republicans make up numbers and don't care where they came from, does it matter?

Last I checked, Gallup was a polling organization. I dare say their small sample size and inexpertise in dealing with complex data, not to mention, methodology and reporting variances, have everything to do with this "jump." Republicans are such sheep. They believe anything, when ten seconds of research always debunks their outlandish claims. They should rename Politics and Other Controversies to "Debunk Each False GOP Claim in 60 Seconds or Less."
 
Old 08-22-2013, 01:22 PM
 
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Here you are- Fresh charts for 2013!

As we can see, things have continued to get worse for the middle class. Liberals, of course, choose to deny any reality as they must face the facts of thier economic failures.

Middle Class Decline Under Obama Shown in 5 Charts - Money Morning

Of course, Obama's assault on the middle class is planned, as it increases his constituency base (The Curly Effect). More poor people= more democrat votes

Obama?s War on the Middle Class | FrontPage Magazine
Since the GOP is out to destroy the middle class, which party do you think the middle class still supports? I'll give you time.
 
Old 08-22-2013, 01:23 PM
 
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Since the GOP is out to destroy the middle class, which party do you think the middle class still supports? I'll give you time.
As you stated
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make up numbers and don't care where they came from, does it matter?
No, you making up crap, doesnt matter, as you confessed..
 
Old 08-22-2013, 01:25 PM
 
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As you stated

No, you making up crap, doesnt matter, as you confessed..
 
Old 08-22-2013, 01:31 PM
 
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Here you are- Fresh charts for 2013!

As we can see, things have continued to get worse for the middle class. Liberals, of course, choose to deny any reality as they must face the facts of thier economic failures.

Middle Class Decline Under Obama Shown in 5 Charts - Money Morning

Of course, Obama's assault on the middle class is planned, as it increases his constituency base (The Curly Effect). More poor people= more democrat votes

Obama?s War on the Middle Class | FrontPage Magazine
You give me some ridiculous website called "Money Morning" for your facts ?

This website wants to claim that Obama somehow doubled gas prices because the price dropped from over $4 in July 2008 down to $1.78 in Fall 2008 when the economy took a nose dive, and Obama then took office at that exact time AFTER this huge price drop occurred!

Why not simply admit you pulled your 40% number from that June 2012 article which was referring back to 2007 - 2010 ?
 
Old 08-22-2013, 01:36 PM
 
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You give me some ridiculous website called "Monday Morning" for your facts ?

This website wants to claim that Obama somehow doubled gas prices because the price dropped from over $4 in July 2008 down to $1.78 in Fall 2008 when the economy took a nose dive, and Obama then took office at that exact time AFTER this huge price drop occurred!

Why not simply admit you pulled your 40% number from that June 2012 article which was referring back to 2007 - 2010 ?
Anyone who posts that a President causes gas prices to increase or decrease should be banned until they learn the concept of futures trading and a market economy.
 
Old 08-22-2013, 01:40 PM
 
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Anyone who posts that a President causes gas prices to increase or decrease should be banned until they learn the concept of futures trading and a market economy.
Obama himself said President Bush was responsible for high gas prices.
 
Old 08-22-2013, 02:18 PM
 
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Here you are- Fresh charts for 2013!

As we can see, things have continued to get worse for the middle class. Liberals, of course, choose to deny any reality as they must face the facts of thier economic failures.

Middle Class Decline Under Obama Shown in 5 Charts - Money Morning

Of course, Obama's assault on the middle class is planned, as it increases his constituency base (The Curly Effect). More poor people= more democrat votes

Obama?s War on the Middle Class | FrontPage Magazine
From your link:

"Middle-wage jobs, paying between $13.84 and $21.13, comprised 60% of recession job losses, but only 22% of jobs added in recovery. Higher-wage jobs, paying $21.14 to $54.55, accounted for 19% of recession job losses and 20% of jobs gained in the recovery. "

According to this, the lower skilled/paying jobs have not recovered as well as the higher skilled /paying jobs and apparently, and it's all Obama's fault.

So we are talking about those who used to make $28,787-43,950 a year.

How many of these former jobs were related to the housing bubble?
How many of these former jobs were eliminated by technology?
How many of these former jobs were eliminated by process reorganizations?
How many of these former jobs were found to be able to be performed just as well for less compensation?
How many of these former jobs were federal, state, county and municipal jobs eliminated by cut backs?

Last I checked, Obama's two jobs bills died on the vine, back in 2011.

What's Congress' plan to put people back to work? Kill the bills and cluck-cluck about Obama?

The bottom line is that most major employers are realizing record profits during these " tough times". They no longer need the number of people they used to have to function and demonstrate record profits to their shareholders. They don't need to pay more because the demand for jobs exceeds the supply of people to fill those jobs.

The private corporations who employ the masses are in the retail and food services sectors long known for part time low wage employment. Walmart's dominance in terms of revenues, profits and employment masses goes back to the 80's.
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