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1. Because I am not an American.
2. Why do people always assume that someone fond of socialism wants to live in a totalitarian crap hole like North Korea?
1. So you can trade whatever citizenship you have for the beloved socialistic one.
2. because it IS socialism in it's core principles.
Exactly, I basically agree with you and said the same before. We just look at it from a different angle. Human nature is indeed the biggest problem, and it changes veeery slowly. And yes, as long as not everyone realizes the benefits of one system over the other, there will be trouble. I basically wrote the same thing before. Some people always want to be better than others (which actually they are, there are huge differences in terms of IQ, ambition, etc.), and, what's worse, live accordingly.
To me being wise means being as modest as possible, consuming as little as possible, thinking of future generations instead of my own, etc. - and placing society above the individual, which is probably what many don't like to hear. As the world's population keeps growing and resources dwindling, it is only a matter of time before the question of society vs individuals will become one of life and death.
I just don't see any point in our current system, frankly.
Human nature is not a PROBLEM.
The problem are those who consider it to be a problem and want to change it to fit their desired utopian society, therefore those utopias NEVER can be established and maintained without bloodshed and violence.
Because it has never been tried in all its details. When you look at Russia for instance, it already was an old country long before, so naturally they did not start from scratch. They already had their societal hierarchy etc. in place.
I guess that is one of the reasons why it has never been implemented successfully. But also because of human nature. As long as there are very ambitious people, those will try to surpass others and become richer, more powerful or whatever. Socialism is for wise people, thus it will remain a theory for quite some time to come. People are just to stupid and bad to really understand its benefits.
And there's your typical liberal. If you don't agree with him, it's because you're too stupid to realize how right he is.
I don't think so, it is more like a cult or sect. Just think of absurd admiration for their leader...
no, it is NOT.
their "admiration" of their leader is a direct derivative of their economic principle. It is always this way, only the level of idiocy in "admiration" differ.
I do not see the admiration of obama to be less cult-like.
Human nature is not a PROBLEM.
The problem are those who consider it to be a problem and want to change it to fit their desired utopian society, therefore those utopias NEVER can be established and maintained without bloodshed and violence.
And THIS is the main reason socialism is EVIL
I disagree. It is humanity's future, if we like it or not. And I do believe that human nature can change as there is a strong cultural element, i.e. not rooted in our genes. Just think of a San society vs US society. It's like a different species, yet it is the same.
their "admiration" of their leader is a direct derivative of their economic principle. It is always this way, only the level of idiocy in "admiration" differ.
I do not see the admiration of obama to be less cult-like.
The difference is that half of Americans hate Obama...
Probably because it has been shown not to in many countries you folks commonly (of course incorrectly) refer to as socialist.
Are you saying that socialism has been shown not to lead to totalitarianism in countries that are not socialist. How does that even make sense?
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