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Old 05-12-2013, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Allendale MI
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Actually, I don't expect anything. I'll state, there are times that Fox News reports on something, and does a good job. As a liberal, there are some times that I'll agree with some of their opinionators (not that clown Hannity. O'Reilly can actually be okay - although he was much better a decade or so ago than he is now).

I'll give anything a chance, unless it comes from an extremely disreputable source, like Breitbart.com or Rush Limbaugh. But Judge whoever went on a nice long rant where she repeatedly shouted "Fact!" , and then followed it up with a falsehood, and that deserves to be written about here.

(And she does it after I stopped my writeup as well, but at that point, I had given up)
I stop watching once she tried to draw us into here rant by talking about her life.

 
Old 05-12-2013, 11:44 PM
 
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I stop watching once she tried to draw us into here rant by talking about her life.
Honestly, that was a good choice. But someone's gotta do the dirty work.
 
Old 05-12-2013, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Originally Posted by BigJon3475 View Post
She's the one going under the bus but wasn't ultimately responsible for the changes/lies (by omission) spread from top officials in the administration.

It would be tragic to see someone like that take the fall for what is very clearly coming from higher-ups.
She's just ANOTHER person who will be thrown under the bus, as was Petreaus, and a few other people who protected the administration. How long will she take the heat for the administration before they cut her loose? And once that happens will she tell the truth?

Petreaus lied under oath during a hearing and covered for the administration only for them to screw over him after his testimony where they released the scandal, disgraced a decorated general and forced him to resign. It is only recently he has come out with the truth behind a closed door hearing. Is this Petreaus covering himself in case the WH tries to implicate him directly in this mess since it appears that the WH is throwing the blame on the CIA? They already threw him under the bus once. He has nothing to lose at this stage by telling the truth.

What is tragic is that that WH uses people to do the dirty work and cover for them so they don't have to get their own hands dirty and once those people have served their purpose they are disposed of like garbage.
 
Old 05-13-2013, 12:14 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Susan Rice was speaking directly for the president of the United States, when she made those statements on all those Sunday shows. There is no way in hell someone as low on the totem pole as Nuland would be allowed to make all any changes on her own.

Something this important, putting out the official White house description of the attacks, definitely involved the president. He sure as hell would never put up with bogus talking points that made him look like an ass on national TV and international cable channels.
Susan Rice didn't have a clue as to the content of the TPs she was handed and briefed on. She was told to read it and repeat it. Nuland may not have "hands on" involvement in the revisions, but I'm sure as the messenger for the Oval Office, she contributed a considerable amount of "suggestions" as to what the TPs were to reflect.

Are you saying that the CIA put together bogus talking points and that was the reason the original version had to be scrubbed and remove 2/3s of the content?? Are you serious? Using the TPs that the WH constructed, and Obama approving them, which S Rice was told to repeat on his behalf, made him look like an ass.

I think Obama was more concerned about the truth coming out and looking like an (inept) ass(hole) on national TV and international cable.

Either way, using the CIA version or the scrubbed version, you get the same result, he looks like an ass.
 
Old 05-13-2013, 12:28 AM
 
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At the time they had no idea how much time they had. They had no idea what kind of situation they would have to face.
I'm sorry, but this is absolutely false.

I may be out now but I still hear things occasionally.

There were Recon Marines 'locked and loaded' sitting on the runway waiting the word to go.
Everyone was asking for it.

But only the CNC. (Commander In Chief) can give the 'go order'


And he CHOSE not to.


It really is that simple. The regulations are clear. The buck stops there.
 
Old 05-13-2013, 12:34 AM
 
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So now "What difference does it make?" and "That happened a long time ago" is changing to "they couldn't have got there in time anyway."

AFRICOM head General Ward is already on record as saying his command was ready to respond but was never given the order to go.
 
Old 05-13-2013, 01:06 AM
 
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How long do you think it would have taken to assemble the boots on the ground, supply them and get them to Benghazi?
The SEALS are ready to go at a moments notice. Obama used them to kill Osama so why not here? The WH version never made any sense.
 
Old 05-13-2013, 03:04 AM
 
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Obama said act of terror the day after the attack all of you right wing nut job act like he never said it here you go proof that you have been brainwashed by Faux Snooze to many times to count

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSEM2rYjHcI

R Money and all of Republicans got shut down on this in the 2nd debate this is a non issue now leave it alone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXkLYIZabWE

Republicans need to stop wasting time and taxpayer money on this asinine witch hunt and get back to fixing real issues like the sequester taxes and loopholes
 
Old 05-13-2013, 04:30 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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They got a warning about the demonstrations in Cairo and had their people not go to work the next day.
So they knew about movie protests but not a terrorist attack.
This may have looked like a random attack by a mob- but I doubt it. The movie issue was just a minor blip on the screen. In my estimation this was a planned attack motivated by an organized so-called terror group. They were not killed out of sheer mob spite. This was planned. The mob atmosphere simply provided an opportunity to carry out the assassinations.

You have to remember when there is a flair up. it is incited by shrewd jerks with a political motivation. Most people are slightly stupid and can be controlled by emotions such as hate and rage. Those who are in control are not emotional but very cool and calculating. Perhaps the intelligence provided the White House was just not that intelligent. I doubt very much that Hillary or Obama are really that street smart to begin with...it that is the case then those who they appoint to gather intelligence were probably poor choices.
 
Old 05-13-2013, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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The SEALS are ready to go at a moments notice. Obama used them to kill Osama so why not here? The WH version never made any sense.
Where were they coming from, how many?
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