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Old 01-30-2013, 04:52 PM
 
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Yep. I live in a nice neighborhood and a couple teenagers that live down around the corner are notorious scum and thieves. Their parents are completely absentee and those 2-dbags are always on the prowl for someone leaving thier car unlocked or garage door open etc.

Kids can be raised poorly in any economic setting.
Bad parenting crosses all economic lines and races. I wonder if anyone has tried to do anything about those two kids in your neighborhood.

I remember the teenager who shot me, and I remember the kid who vandalized my house, as well as a few other kids in the neighborhood who caused problems, including one who robbed a house. One thing was common: The parents weren't doing their job. They let their kids roam, at night even.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:12 PM
 
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So.... a thread ostensibly about Obama's failure to change the world for the black community becomes a vehicle for displaying ghetto hootchie mama's getting tazed. Obama has been in office 4 years, that woman was at least 20 years old... actually, I don't know which woman got tazed because I didn't watch the video long enough to see a tazing occur. You people have more stomach for human misery than I do, apparently. In any case, these women were where they were before Obama even decided to be a politician! The Black Community will not, cannot be helped by a single presidential administration "fixing" what is wrong with the country. White America will have to own the fact that they possibly destroyed a people. I mean... there was slavery in the Caribbean and there was slavery in South America... the survivors of those regimes have not expressed the behaviors that are unique to the surviving descendants of American slaves.
Of course not but the problem as the NAACP see's it isn't that Obama hasn't solved all the problems of the black communities in 4 years but rather that blacks have fallen even further behind under Obama.

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I suspect some of it has to do with the actual conditions of slavery in America vs. slavery elsewhere and it has to do with the extended periods of post slavery ostracism, disenfranchisement and discrimination that continues to the present day. I experience it myself. I have IT Certifications and they are so strong that a friend's wife was able to get me a job with her company because she is the HR Director. All hell broke loose when I arrived for the meet and greet. The company won't return my phone calls or e-mails and neither my friend or his wife are allowed to talk about it or simply won't. Maybe if the receptionist hadn't dashed into the conference room saying "there's been a big mistake" when I informed her who I was I wouldn't think that I'm being discriminated against but I'm sure some of you have your personal spin.
Nothing personal but I do not believe you because if this had happened you would be rolling in money right now.

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Whatever, you can't tell an intelligent person that there ain't something real stupid crazy and twisted about the continued tragedy of life deep in the inner cities of the United States. And it colors the experience of all the black people that come to this country whether they are actual descendants of American Slaves themselves or not. Obviously there are strands of that Diaspora that are now graduating from black colleges and do not present like the hoodlums in your video's. It doesn't matter. They get treated much the same as any ghetto denizen by most of white society.
Everyone in the inner cities have it bad. Move out. My parents did.

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Obama is as much a victim of institutionalized racism as the hood-rats. Anyone who thinks he was the Messiah and was going to single-handedly turn 200 years of tradition on its ear and right all wrongs... ... well you see how wrong that thinking was. The gridlock in Washington is so excruciating because ANY compromise is seen in racial terms by the big players. America got its first credit downgrade ever by simply uttering the word 'default'. The lesson not having been learned we are again ready to try for another downgrade by making it clear to those whom it concerns that there is no spirit of cooperation in Washington and the ideology of each side is strengthened by their absolute fear of being seen as compromising with one of them. I mean... early in the game a number of DEMOCRATS were ready to leave the party and/or make it perfectly clear to their constituents that they would go against anything Obama wanted... it became more important to show that Obama wasn't in charge than about party unity.

I'm done... carry on and take this thread into more pointless bashing of black people.

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Obama grew up in Hawaii going to private schools. I'm sure most people would be all over that sort of racism. The ratings agencies said that the downgrade was coming gridlock or not. We did not get downgraded because politicians said we are spending too much. Race had nothing to do with that debate either.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:14 PM
 
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Yep. I live in a nice neighborhood and a couple teenagers that live down around the corner are notorious scum and thieves. Their parents are completely absentee and those 2-dbags are always on the prowl for someone leaving thier car unlocked or garage door open etc.

Kids can be raised poorly in any economic setting.
Absolutely.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:18 PM
 
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Some seem to believe that the 'in yo face' attitude is part of their cultural identity. And the legitimization and glorification of that 'culture' by supporting media and entertainment that depicts and promotes it is as much to blame as are the poor ignorant souls who live it. When exactly did 'arrogance' 'attitude' and 'swagger' start becoming desired personality traits? What a pathetic society we live in.
The result of widespread single motherhood. When boys grow up without fathers and raised by single moms,that is how they usually turn out. They don't know what real masculinity is.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:19 PM
 
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Everyone in the inner cities have it bad. Move out. My parents did.
How did your parents move out? I'm asking because it takes money to move out.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:20 PM
 
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The result of widespread single motherhood. When boys grow up without fathers and raised by single moms,that is how they usually turn out. They don't know what real masculinity is.
That is a big part of it. It's not the only part, but it does play a role.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:27 PM
 
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How did your parents move out? I'm asking because it takes money to move out.
Mine didn't have any. When I was very little we lived somewhere around the 70 block on Euclid Ave in Cleveland. Witnessing what all was going on around them my parents decided they had to move to the suburbs.

We moved to a really small trailer in a trailer court about 20 miles east.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:57 PM
 
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I honestly don't know how anyone watched the entire video. I couldn't stomach it after 1:00. I don't know what to say about women who use such filthy language, let alone in front of impressionable children. This is the most disgraceful behavior I have seen in a very long time. Those poor children are doomed.

Hispanics knew what they wanted, and they threatened to withhold their votes if Obama didn't address their demands. He took their threats seriously. When he met with their groups, he didn't tell them to stop whining. No, he promised results. Unlike the guaranteed black vote, he knew to win the election he had to do something to keep their support. So, he granted DACA. In response to additional demands, and to ensure their continued support for Democrats, he made immigration reform his "top priority."

I could be mistaken, but to my knowledge, prior to now, Jealous and other so-called black leaders made no demands or threats. When a group allows itself to be taken for granted, they will receive nothing, and they should expect nothing.
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Old 01-30-2013, 06:02 PM
 
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Blacks have done worse then anyone else no matter who was president. I'm Black, and I struggled to get a job under the Bush administration, and I struggle to get a job. To me, it doesn't matter to me who the president is.
Skills matter.
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Old 01-30-2013, 06:06 PM
 
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Skills matter.
I have skills and a college degree. So do about a million other people. My skills are involved in cartography and the use of GIS. I know data analysis, raster to vector translation, data capture, and remote sensing. I still have problems getting a job. Every job I've seen requires more than a year of experience.
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