Trayvon Martin Case Updates: 2 Judges Recuse, "graphic pictures" of Zimmerman's Injuries, Bond set at $150K (cocaine, generation)
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This is all speculation, but even if you speculate on what happened the Martin story still doesn't make sense. We know that Martin thought someone was following him. We can also assume he could have easily outrun Zimmerman. So that means he confronted Zimmerman. We don't know what happened after that. You can't just physically attack someone if you think they are following you. Even if Martin attacked Zimmerman because Zimmerman was following him it's still self-defense for Zimmerman.
Actually, what you are saying is that Trayvon Martin was not allowed to stand his ground from the aggression of Zimmerman. Zimmerman had not right to even pursue Martin because the police dispatch told him not to do so. And the police report states that the incident could have been avoided had Zimmerman followed the orders of the police dispatcher. Zimmerman has a problem following orders from authority (as proven by his assaulting a police officer arrest) Zimmerman was supposed to do nothing but observe and report, instead he took a loaded gun and went in pursuit.
George Zimmerman knows that he is guilty of murder, his apology is a evidence of his guilt. Who apologizes if they thought they were really in a life threatening situation? He knew that he had killed an unarmed kid. And he lied about the self defense. He is a liar. And a murderer.
OR...run home instead of trying to snuff GZ from behind????
Why would Trayvon Martin turn his back to George Zimmerman and run, especially since Zimmerman had a gun in his hand? So that GZ could shot him in the back?
Remember, Trayvon Martin didn't know what GZ's motivations were. TM may have thought that GZ was trying to rob him. We don't know when the gun first made its appearance. If GZ did a "Freeze, don't move" while holding up a gun. Then TM would be more likely to fear a shot from the back had he run to the house.
Not "If you perceive some creep go ahead and sucker punch him after words are exchanged"......
The reason I still believe Trayvon made a dire mistake is because the transcript from his girlfriend when they were on the phone...
His girlfriend said "Baby just come back home"....
????
What was the alternative??? If I was to guess what was said on the phone call... I can totally see him on machismo mode like "Nah baby....I'm gonna chip this dudes jaw up"
"Nah, imma knock him out...watch..."
We live in a generation where the youth show out more than ever.....Kids do the dumbest s*** ever to get seen on YouTube or WorldStarHipHop.com.
It's VERY veryyyy possible that Martin made the worst decision of his short life. Why do people still clutch the "pursuit" loophole? Zimmerman was within his rights as long as he didn't initiate aggression.
It's a bitter pill to swallow...but this is pretty cut and dry provided this is how it played out.
Actually, what you are saying is that Trayoin Martin was not allowed to stand his ground from the aggression of Zimmerman. Zimmerman had not right to even pursue Martin because the police dispatch told him not to do so. And the police report states that the incident could have been avoided had Zimmerman followed the orders of the police dispatcher. Zimmerman has a problem following orders from authority (as proven by his assaulting a police officer arrest) Zimmerman was supposed to do nothing but observe and report, instead he took a loaded gun and went in pursuit.
George Zimmerman knows that he is guilty of murder, his apology is a evidence of his guilt. Who apologizes if they thought they were really in a life threatening situation? He knew that he had killed an unarmed kid. And he lied about the self defense. He is a liar. And a murderer.
Standing your ground doesn't mean physically attacking someone. Zimmerman had a right to confront Martin. The dispatcher isn't a cop and has no authority. As for his "apology" he clearly stated that he was sorry for the loss of their son, and was very careful not to apologize for what he did.
Why would Trayvon Martin turn his back to George Zimmerman and run, especially since Zimmerman had a gun in his hand? So that GZ could shot him in the back?
How can you conclude that Martin, without a doubt, knew that Zimmerman had a gun at that moment??
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Remember, Trayvon Martin didn't know what GZ's motivations were. TM may have thought that GZ was trying to rob him. We don't know when the gun first made its appearance. If GZ did a "Freeze, don't move" while holding up a gun. Then TM would be more likely to fear a shot from the back had he run to the house.
If somebody holds up a gun and yells "freeze" than I am under the assumption that Zimmerman is guilty of false imprisonment at that very moment...
What would Zimmerman do that for? There is no report whatsoever of anything close to indicating that is what happened.....
A man with a gun pointed point blank doesn't end up getting his face pounded in.
From what I gather.... the MOST likely situation was Zimmerman, out of angst, shooting Trayvon AFTER getting his a$$ whipped.
This is all speculation, but even if you speculate on what happened the Martin story still doesn't make sense. We know that Martin thought someone was following him. We can also assume he could have easily outrun Zimmerman. So that means he confronted Zimmerman. We don't know what happened after that. You can't just physically attack someone if you think they are following you. Even if Martin attacked Zimmerman because Zimmerman was following him it's still self-defense for Zimmerman.
What "Martin story?" Martin is dead...all there is of a narrative other than that of Zimmerman is speculation. On the other hand, the Sanford Police thought that Zimmerman gave inconsistent stories, but had no evidence at that time to charge him as there was no other living participant. Martin knew that someone was following him; that's made clear in the statements made by the friend who was on the phone with him at the time. By stating that Trayvon confronted Zimmerman, you're accepting the word of a total stranger to you, and one who's been shown to have had his own legal problems, domestic violence problems, an unstable work history and acquaintances who have said that he had a "Jeckyll and Hyde"
personality. I'm thinking that Corey is sufficiently intelligent to examine the evidence and proceed with a case that by necessity questions the veracity of Zimmerman.
Not "If you perceive some creep go ahead and sucker punch him after words are exchanged"......
"..The reason I still believe Trayvon made a dire mistake is because the transcript from his girlfriend when they were on the phone...
His girlfriend said "Baby just come back home..
????
What was the alternative??? If I was to guess what was said on the phone call... I can totally see him on machismo mode like "Nah baby....I'm gonna chip this dudes jaw up"
"Nah, imma knock him out...watch..."
We live in a generation where the youth show out more than ever.....Kids do the dumbest s*** ever to get seen on YouTube or WorldStarHipHop.com.
It's VERY veryyyy possible that Martin made the worst decision of his short life. Why do people still clutch the "pursuit" loophole? Zimmerman was within his rights as long as he didn't initiate aggression.
It's a bitter pill to swallow...but this is pretty cut and dry provided this is how
it played out.
Again, the girlfriend didn't know how far away from home he was. She could not see what GZ's stance was or his distance from TM.
And then your assumptions about what TM said to his girlfriend are racially biased and very telling as to why you are Team GZ.
Standing your ground doesn't mean physically attacking someone. Zimmerman had a right to confront Martin. The dispatcher isn't a cop and has no authority. As for his "apology" he clearly stated that he was sorry for the loss of their son, and was very careful not to apologize for what he did.
You do not know if the dispatcher is a police officer or not. In any event, the dispatcher is an employee of the PD, and trained to handle these situations.
What "Martin story?" Martin is dead...all there is of a narrative other than that of Zimmerman is speculation. On the other hand, the Sanford Police thought that Zimmerman gave inconsistent stories, but had no evidence at that time to charge him as there was no other living participant. Martin knew that someone was following him; that's made clear in the statements made by the friend who was on the phone with him at the time. By stating that Trayvon confronted Zimmerman, you're accepting the word of a total stranger to you, and one who's been shown to have had his own legal problems, domestic violence problems, an unstable work history and acquaintances who have said that he had a "Jeckyll and Hyde"
personality. I'm thinking that Corey is sufficiently intelligent to examine the evidence and proceed with a case that by necessity questions the veracity of Zimmerman.
So if Martin knew someone was following him why not run away? Even if Zimmerman confronted Martin it doesn't really matter. All that matters is who made it violent, which we will never know. But Zimmerman starting the fight makes no sense. A person with a gun generally doesn't start a physical altercation with a larger, younger person.
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