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Old 02-28-2012, 04:10 PM
 
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The vast majority of companies on wall street already randomly test employees. The bad PR from one exec being caught doing drugs just isn't worth it.

In the corporation I work for, an independent company randomly selects employees every month to test. Everyone is eligible, up to and including the board of directors. If you test positive, you have to go to rehab or give up your job. This is common place in corporate america.

Your snide comment would have been true in 1980, but not today.
I simply don't believe you that most of Wall St is subjected to random drug testing. Perhaps, pre-employment testing, but not random testing without cause.

That’s not so prevalent for the finance industry. I believe that 94% of all tests we’ve done were pre-employment. And many of the post-hire testing is triggered by an event like an accident.
How Wall Streeters Beat Drug Tests - Deal Journal - WSJ


After an undercover drug operation on Wall Street, DEA agents once said that"cocaine was either used or accepted by 90 percent of the people they met in the financial community."


Hard evidence of recent drug usage on Wall Street is scarce. According to the New York Post, a T.G.I. Friday's in the Financial District was shut down by police after they discovered that the restaurant was linked to cocaine deals.


"Many of the drug buyers were Wall Street traders, brokers and bankers who liked to spend their nights getting high after the market spent the day going low," the Post said.
Wall Street turns a blind eye to drugs - Business - The Vista - University of San Diego
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Old 02-28-2012, 04:40 PM
 
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i think it's a good idea. i don't really care. my friends (who are usually apolitical) have been plastering facebook with this topic, though.

the general idea is that if i have to take a drug test to get a job, they oughta take a drug test to get any kind of gov't bennies. i can abide by that.
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Old 02-28-2012, 08:11 PM
 
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Its been a MASSIVE waste of state money.

LOL. how can you justify that statement considering the numbers in that table? They saved 2 million in just over months and again since we have an undetermined amount of people that never applied because of the testing it's actually higher. MUCH higher when you consider this:

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Approvals for September 2011 (for cash assistance applicants for eligible adults subject to the drug testing requirement) were 62 percent lower than September 2010
That is a startling figure.
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Old 02-28-2012, 08:15 PM
 
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There are needy people who need this help, and then there are others who are addicts and look for anyway to get something for drugs. Got to weed out the good from the bad. If you dont do drugs, then you have nothing to worry about concerning this testing. Working people have to do it
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Old 02-28-2012, 08:15 PM
 
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It's about time!

They should test for people collecting welfare, food stamps, WIC, medicaid and all other public assistance.
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Old 02-28-2012, 08:26 PM
 
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I don't agree with this. It's not that I condone drug taking, but it is just singling out the poor again. Also, check this out from the sunshine state:

2% of Welfare Recipients Fail Drug Tests in Florida | Dispatches from the Culture Wars

http://www2.tbo.com/news/politics/20...res-ar-252458/

Only 2% of welfare recipients in Florida failed drug tests. Therefore, I ask, is it really worth it? These tests cost money and create more bureaucracy. A big old waste of time if you ask me and will only hurt the taxpayer and children, if they are part of the equation. Even if it were 20%, this would still be a waste of time.
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Old 02-28-2012, 08:28 PM
 
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It's about time!

They should test for people collecting welfare, food stamps, WIC, medicaid and all other public assistance.
Then test everyone, including CEOs and politicians.
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Old 02-28-2012, 08:32 PM
 
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Then test everyone, including CEOs and politicians.

I agree. But come on admit it....you hit the pipe dont you?
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Old 02-28-2012, 08:49 PM
 
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Its been a MASSIVE waste of state money.
Wrong.

This is exactly what I want to see:
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FIRST QUARTER RESULTS
  • 48% drop in cash assistance approvals since drug test requirement
The impact of drug testing for welfare cash assistance is having a dramatic impact on approvals for cash assistance. Approvals for September 2011 (for cash assistance applicants for eligible adults subject to the drug testing requirement) were 62 percent lower than September 2010 and 48 percent lower than in June 2011, the month before the drug testing requirement took effect.[1]
Next step is to get their goat-smelling asses out of the country. If they want to laze around, they can do that anywhere.

It's my money. And if I say drug test, then that's just way it goes. If you all don't like it, then don't apply for benefits.So long as you are taking my money, I'll decide exactly the conditions under which you can have that money.

Drug testing...

Mircea
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Old 02-28-2012, 08:51 PM
 
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Then test everyone, including CEOs and politicians.
Why CEO's?
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