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Old 02-14-2012, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Yes I agree with that.
What about Christian Scientists?
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Old 02-14-2012, 10:41 AM
 
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women in the work force, covered by an employer who are between the ages of 18 and 45, would consider birth control coverage as part of a routine health coverage. if men got pregnant there would be no issue

business owners like the "states" right does not give one a green light to ignore what is common place and accepted as normal practices. you don't get to "exclude" based on personal bigotry
Classic entitlement mentality. Its my money, If I choose not to cover you for something that should be my choice. It you want to pay for it be my guest or go work for some other employer that does provide that type of coverage.

Seeing as how you are a pro-abortion in your posts you should understand that view point.
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Old 02-14-2012, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Why should any employer be forced by law to provide any type of health insurance at all or, if they do, to cover anything in particular?

Why doesn't the government just subsidize birth control directly? Problem solved...
They are not forced to do so.
Employers offer healthcare benefits as a means to attract quality employees.
The more competitive the industry, the more benefits offered.
And, there is still economy of scale, particularly for companies with hundreds or thousands of employees.
Some of the largest offer virtually every sort of benefit one could imagine from health insurance to legal services to pet insurance and so on.
I don't see that changing anytime soon.
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Old 02-14-2012, 10:42 AM
 
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Like I said earlier, I think employers shouldn't be providing health insurance at all. Most Americans have no clue what the true cost of health insurance is. If they knew and were forced to pay for it directly, they would demand that costs come down.
Yet you don't think the government should provide it either. IYO, it should be a free for all - insurance companies choosing who they will insure and everyone else pays cash for medical care. No cash, no care.

Lots of dead Americans, doing it your way...
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Old 02-14-2012, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Texas
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They are not forced to do so.
Employers offer healthcare benefits as a means to attract quality employees.
I'm aware of this, but I was under the impression that the health care plan was going to require employers to provide health insurance within a few years.

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The more competitive the industry, the more benefits offered.
And, there is still economy of scale, particularly for companies with hundreds or thousands of employees.
Some of the largest offer virtually every sort of benefit one could imagine from health insurance to legal services to pet insurance and so on.
I don't see that changing anytime soon.
I don't see it changing either, but I really wouldn't have a problem with banning employer-provided health insurance altogether. If people had an idea of what health insurance really cost, health care costs would come down.
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Old 02-14-2012, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Yet you don't think the government should provide it either. IYO, it should be a free for all - insurance companies choosing who they will insure and everyone else pays cash for medical care. No cash, no care.

Lots of dead Americans, doing it your way...
No, states should do something to help the uninsured.

And I'm not opposed to laws prohibiting discrimination based on pre-existing conditions.
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Old 02-14-2012, 10:45 AM
 
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What about Christian Scientists?
If it is their private business go for it. I have picked up two great supervisors from another landscape company owned by German Baptists. The employees didn't like the way they ran their company and came to work for me for lower pay. Their choice.
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Old 02-14-2012, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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simple solution

GET RID of ALL (private and government) INSURANCE....insurance is not care...never was
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Old 02-14-2012, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Texas
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simple solution

GET RID of ALL (private and government) INSURANCE....insurance is not care...never was
You do understand that just a few days in the hospital can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, right?

Those costs need to come down, but we have to have insurance. And eliminating insurance wouldn't do enough to get those costs down. It would help some, but the costs wouldn't be low enough for the majority of Americans to be able to afford it.
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Old 02-14-2012, 10:48 AM
 
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simple solution

GET RID of ALL (private and government) INSURANCE....insurance is not care...never was
Interesting viewpoint. Care to expound on that a little?
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