Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
It is about Obama forcing the state upon religiously based institution. Were it not he would have exempted them completely just as he did the Amish and others under the original provisions of Obamacare and not be pulling this under HHS "rules".
I don't recall the Amish being involved in politics much, and I'm pretty sure they aren't a mega-rich religious institution that tries to force their views into public policy. Can't recall seeing an Amish farmers raising hell about gay marriage. The Catholic church OTOH, they DO want to force their views into politics and have laws passed that affect everyone including those who don't follow their belief system.
If they want to stick their nose in government constantly and push agendas that affect EVERYONE, they should be affected by the government agendas when they don't work out the way the Catholic church wants.
the fact is prices started SKYROCKETING the same time that insuranec went from HOSPITALIZATION to 'all covereage" policies..AND..the GOVERMENT got involved (medicare/caid)
50 years ago there was you didnt use INSURANCE to go to the doctors for the sniffles..you paid out of pocket....today people want their INSURANCE to pay for everything...........think about this....your auto/home insurance....do you call the insuarnce company everytime you want a tuneup(checkup) or change the tires....no
as the females out there keep saying "its my body, my choice"....well...it is your body, your choice, your health...and your BILL...pay your own darn bill...dont EXPECT (entitlement) someone else to pay it for you
I've skipped some of this thread, so if a response has been posted to this I apologize.
Decades ago, insurance basically just paid for hospitalization and "major medical". People went into the hospital for "tests" b/c that was the only way to get them paid for. People were admitted to the hospital a few days early in some cases for "preparation", ditto. Then health care advocates pointed out to the insurers that such was expensive; it was much cheaper to do these tests and pay for them w/o hospitalization if there was no other need to hospitalize the person. The two groups got in bed together and what we have today is insurers making it practically impossible for anyone to go to the hospital for any reason.
In the early 80s, HMOs came into widespread use. The idea was, as the name implies, to pay the insurance company to keep you well. Thus, preventive care such as immunizations, and early detection care such as paps, mammograms, etc came to be covered. Traditional health insurers followed suit. There is good research to show that such coverage does improve immunization rates and cancer screening rates.
I get very annoyed at the comparisons to auto and homeowners insurance, as if they are all the same issue.
I know of several centers in our area that provide free birth control. Including Planned Parenthood.
1. There are many areas that are not serviced by Planned Parenthood.
2. You would have to be extremely poor to get BCP for free from PP. They use a sliding scale. Most working women would probably have to pay at the top of the scale.
What part of life sucks and then you die don't you understand. Under your assumption I would come begging to you on my knees for you to pay for that child as if you don't have your own problems to deal with.
But then again I'm not stupid enough to have children in a world I know is going to be ruled by retarded as folks who love to use Darwin as a role model but hate his freaking thesis.
Today's NY Times has an op-ed that quotes several Santorum speeches and Q/A going back only several years, and makes the point that he wants to repeal the 1960s, which he see pure and simple as "sex." Sex rules everything. Sex equal liberal. sex sex sexsex
I'm amazed he had time or energy to produce seven or so children, given how obsessed he clearly is about sex. I think many who support him have the underlying issue of the perceived rot of the 1960s equals all the problems of today and that sex equals the 1960s, which equals women getting out from under the thumb of legal and personal oppression and lack of choices in every sphere.
He is genuinely obsessed. I honestly think he is a bit nuts, not because I disagree with him, but because I think he is obsessed and off-kilter.
He has denounced Rush Limbaugh's recent statements. That is proof to me that we have crossed yet another line into the Bizarro world.
I would like to read about the uproar if Medicare failed to cover " Viagra" YES THEY DO!!. Somethign wrong in this picture. Being Christian/Catholic or whatever does not give you the right to forcwe other to live and do as you-regardless.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.