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Old 02-14-2012, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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Originally Posted by Ceece View Post
Fundamentally flawed point, especially these days. Especially when someone has the power to change your healthcare when even though you've made your career there. Nope.
They can also lower your pay or fire you. Or you can quit and find a job that pays double. That is free market capitalism.
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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Only a religious nut case, or an absolute moron (see Republican reactionaries) would prefer the costs associated with abortions or pregnancy to the cost of providing coverage for birth control.
Why not limit the number of children the insured can have? That would be really cost effective.
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:19 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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This is not about "birth control". That is the fallacy the far left keeps pushing.

This is 100% about the federal government attempting to use regulation to intercede with the right to worship freely and faith based matters of conscience. It is a violation of the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution.

BULL! It has ZERO affect on anyone's right to worship freely and in no way attempts to force birth control on anyone who doesn't believe in it.
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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What does the 2nd and 3rd sentence of your post have to do with the topic?
Or is it that you just couldnt resist taking a cheap shot?
Grow up.
I was responding to someone elses comment on PP. maybe you don't understand.
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:24 PM
 
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Seals the re-election of Obama. Are they intentionally throwing the election because they don't like the field of candidates? One wonders.
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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The Catholic Church as a religion has every right to demand whatever it wants from its believers but does not have the right to demand anything but work from its employees. The first is sacred, the second profane. Church/State.
The Church is not asking their workers not to use contraceptives. They are just asking them to pay for them themselves. The government forcing the Church to pay for something against their beliefs is not an infringement on Church/state?
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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I was responding to someone elses comment on PP. maybe you don't understand.
I understand perfectly that you were taking a cheap shot.
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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It's a prescription. A woman gets a prescription from her doctor for medication she and her doctor both think she requires. If an employer is going to offer an insurance benefit that covers prescriptions, then the employer should not go through the possible prescriptions and assert, "this is okay, this is not, what's he getting this for, oh, okay, yeah, I guess this is okay, oh no way, I'm not paying for this..." The insurance company is already screening the services provided, the employer should not try to impose his judgment on the process. And, birth control pills aren't cheap. The doctor's appointment isn't cheap either.

And someone else should be paying because when I negotiated my job I negotiated that health insurance would be one of the benefits. And just as if a man has problems with his reproductive system, women have issues with theirs, and deserve to have those issues addressed. Without having to submit to an employer invading her privacy to pass judgment on those issues.
In a dream world what you say would be true. Employers DO decide what drugs are covered and which are not. Many, if not most, don't cover viagra, they may specify generic drugs etc.
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:33 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Seals the re-election of Obama. Are they intentionally throwing the election because they don't like the field of candidates? One wonders.
One does, doesn't one? LOL

I think one thing can be certain, though - after Mittens loses (again) in 2012, he will be back in 2016 because trying to be president seems to be the only thing he knows how to do.

Like campaigning is some kind of bored rich guy hobby or something.
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:35 PM
 
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I am the business. Well and my wife.

You or anyone else should have no power to tell me what FREE benefits I should or shouldn't provide no matter what the reason. That is the only morality of this situation that counts.

If you own your own company feel free to provide whatever FREE benefits you desire to your employee's but don't you dare tell me how to spend the money my company earns.
You said in a number of previous posts that your employees work for less pay because you provide such good benefits. So, it would seem that you are not providing FREE benefits - your employees are contributing to their benefits with the money that you do not pay them in salaries.
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