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Old 01-02-2012, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Welfare dependency is a symptom not the cause of the problem. Read Moynihan Report, Black families were female dominated well before Johnson's Great Society.


U.S. Department of Labor -- History -- Chapter IV. The Tangle of Pathology (http://www.dol.gov/oasam/programs/history/moynchapter4.htm - broken link)
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A fundamental fact of Negro American family life is the often reversed roles of husband and wife.
Robert O. Blood, Jr. and Donald M. Wolfe, in a study of Detroit families, note that "Negro husbands have unusually low power,"28 and while this is characteristic of all low income families, the pattern pervades the Negro social structure: "the cumulative result of discrimination in jobs..., the segregated housing, and the poor schooling of Negro men."29 In 44 percent of the Negro families studied, the wife was dominant, as against 20 percent of white wives. "Whereas the majority of white families are equalitarian, the largest percentage of Negro families are dominated by the wife."30
The matriarchal pattern of so many Negro families reinforces itself over the generations. This process begins with education. Although the gap appears to be closing at the moment, for a long while, Negro females were better educated than Negro males, and this remains true today for the Negro population as a whole.
The difference in educational attainment between nonwhite men and women in the labor force is even greater; men lag 1.1 years behind women.
The disparity in educational attainment of male and female youth 16 to 21 who were out of school in February 1963, is striking. Among the nonwhite males, 66.3 percent were not high school graduates, compared with 55.0 percent of the females. A similar difference existed at the college level, with 4.5 percent of the males having completed 1 to 3 years of college compared with 7.3 percent of the females.
The poorer performance of the male in school exists from the very beginning, and the magnitude of the difference was documented by the 1960 Census in statistics on the number of children who have fallen one or more grades below the typical grade for children of the same age. The boys have more frequently fallen behind at every age level. (White boys also lag behind white girls, but at a differential of 1 to 6 percentage points.)

 
Old 01-02-2012, 08:45 AM
 
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Ideology tends to take a back seat to Food and shelter. These are the shackles liberals have put on black America




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That is true but one value of social conservatives is personal responsibility. If these women were personally responsible they wouldn't be looking to benefit from democratic social programs (nor would they be single mothers).
 
Old 01-02-2012, 08:49 AM
 
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Ideology tends to take a back seat to Food and shelter. These are the shackles liberals have put on black America
Then we disagree that these shackles have been put on black America because under no circumstances can the federal government be blamed for any woman making the choice to have unprotected sex with a man who is financially incapable of taking care of the resulting children.
 
Old 01-02-2012, 09:10 AM
 
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Get all what?

Do you think that in a nation of nearly 40,000,000 people of color these two gentlemen are the only ones to throw off the shackles of democratic party slavery?

Give me a break!
LMAO...you need to abolish this thread. It's incredibly flimsy right from the start. I mean...guess what? 3 black people in Utah switched from Democrat to Republican today. You didn't hear about it? Yea, it was a watershed event in black political groupthink. It's going to lead to all blacks changing over to Republicans by 1700 tomorrow evening. Yea!

That's how ridiculous this thread is.
 
Old 01-02-2012, 09:11 AM
 
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Who's to blame?



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Then we disagree that these shackles have been put on black America because under no circumstances can the federal government be blamed for any woman making the choice to have unprotected sex with a man who is financially incapable of taking care of the resulting children.
 
Old 01-02-2012, 09:12 AM
 
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Who's to blame?
I hope yours is not a serious question. Of course the two people having sex are to blame.
 
Old 01-02-2012, 09:17 AM
 
Location: North America
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LMAO...you need to abolish this thread. It's incredibly flimsy right from the start. I mean...guess what? 3 black people in Utah switched from Democrat to Republican today. You didn't hear about it? Yea, it was a watershed event in black political groupthink. It's going to lead to all blacks changing over to Republicans by 1700 tomorrow evening. Yea!

That's how ridiculous this thread is.
When they are presented with a logical argument they wish to shut down the argument instead of confronting their own failed beliefs.
 
Old 01-02-2012, 09:24 AM
 
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When they are presented with a logical argument they wish to shut down the argument instead of confronting their own failed beliefs.
You don't get it:

THERE WAS NO LOGICAL ARGUMENT!!
 
Old 01-02-2012, 09:25 AM
 
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Sure there was.



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You don't get it:

THERE WAS NO LOGICAL ARGUMENT!!
 
Old 01-02-2012, 09:28 AM
 
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Sure there was.
OK...since CLB can't make sense of his own thread, why don't you give it a shot?

Shoot! I'm listening.
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