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Old 05-13-2013, 10:01 PM
 
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There is extreme ignorance and prejudice being displayed by those who are on BOTH sides of this fence. Human sexuality is not that cut and dried. For progressives it is not something that should be pigeon holed and titled. Nor is it being fully logical for traditionalists to assume they have all the right answers....myself...I just don't go for the whole categorizing of human sexuality and sexual identity. People come up with theories and institutionalize them as fact...no one really understands what is going on....In the mean time I will stick to my mantra...People leave the kids alone and let nature take it's course.

Yeah, leave the kids alone.
If you don't, you're an abuser.
Period.
Get a life of your own and leave your kids alone.

Also, there are "right" answers. The truth will turn around and bite a person if a person doesn't wish to face the truth while living day to day.

Good luck with that.

best,
toodie

 
Old 05-13-2013, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Yeah, leave the kids alone.
If you don't, you're an abuser.
Period.
Get a life of your own and leave your kids alone.

Also, there are "right" answers. The truth will turn around and bite a person if a person doesn't wish to face the truth while living day to day.

Good luck with that.

best,
toodie
To live sexually in any manner through children is an obscenity. No one likes the idea of two old lesbians with an ADOPTED child in their care who wish to be part of a process that is the forming of some sort of sexual freak that might just be a normal little boy. This is one of the reasons some people are against gay and lesbian adoption. What business is it of these "parents" to even involve themselves in such an endeavor? Like I said earlier....imagine if the natural and real parents found out that their son that was sent out to be adopted ended up with these two? They would be horrified and wish they would have opted for abortion.
 
Old 05-13-2013, 10:21 PM
 
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To live sexually in any manner through children is an obscenity. No one likes the idea of two old lesbians with an ADOPTED child in their care who wish to be part of a process that is the forming of some sort of sexual freak that might just be a normal little boy. This is one of the reasons some people are against gay and lesbian adoption. What business is it of these "parents" to even involve themselves in such an endeavor? Like I said earlier....imagine if the natural and real parents found out that their son that was sent out to be adopted ended up with these two? They would be horrified and wish they would have opted for abortion.

Exactly. And the truth is that these people don't deserve a child. Period. Sadly, these kids are being indoctrinated by the so-called "loving" parents who adopted them, to believe that low moral values are now "the way to enlightenment."

Good luck to those kids when they have to face others in the real world.

best,
toodie
 
Old 05-13-2013, 10:46 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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To live sexually in any manner through children is an obscenity. No one likes the idea of two old lesbians with an ADOPTED child in their care who wish to be part of a process that is the forming of some sort of sexual freak that might just be a normal little boy. This is one of the reasons some people are against gay and lesbian adoption. What business is it of these "parents" to even involve themselves in such an endeavor? Like I said earlier....imagine if the natural and real parents found out that their son that was sent out to be adopted ended up with these two? They would be horrified and wish they would have opted for abortion.
Hmmm. Possible. This pair seems way to willing to alter this boy. That he was saying "I'm a girl" at three years old, and they siezed on this as a "gender identity disorder" is just nuts! Good grief! At three, I am told I used to play I was a dov, or some other animal. So glad my folks didn't haul me to some quack that diagnosed me with "species identity disorder".
 
Old 05-14-2013, 12:22 AM
 
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Natural Selection will take care of this.
 
Old 05-14-2013, 04:20 AM
 
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Maybe this lesbian couple should have provided a male role model? A child this age really has no firm idea of what behavior they should emulate. Under these circumstances...to drug a child and mess with hormones is abuse of an innocent child. Give it twenty years and this boy will grow to hate what his "parents" did to him...He is not doing this to himself- this is being done to him.
Maybe all the posters on this thread making such ignorant prejudiced statements like the post above, should educate themselves on the topic. What a novel idea!
 
Old 05-14-2013, 04:34 AM
 
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Wellll! S**; my britches Billy! I is sorry Massah!! Funny thing though...I don't fell embarassed. Why sbould I? This is bow I feel about "science"playing God. Mucking about with the order of tbings. As I said earlier, nature will always balance itself. The more that man screws around, changing things to suit, the deeper the hole gets.

.....

I don't care what you think of my take on this. I am not comfortable serving the whims of "science". That's the bunch that has no clue. Them and folks like you, who worship at their alter.
I'm sorry you're so scared of 'science'. It's amazing that you can get up the courage to even use a computer. But it's a shame you didn't have enough courage to actually read the article and watch the video before posting hysterical rants in this thread.

If you ever get acute appendicitis or have a heart problem or a life threatening disease, I'm assuming that you won't go to a hospital or a doctor and that you'll just close your eyes and hope "nature will balance itself out". Let us know how that works out okay?
 
Old 05-14-2013, 04:37 AM
 
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Lol. Somebody give the kid a rifle and take him hunting like all boys should learn to do and you'd be screeching like an alley cat I bet.
Hope you don't have kids. If you do, seek help.
Hope you never have a transgender child. Something tells me they'd be in the 50% who attempt suicide when going through puberty.

Luckily, this child had loving intelligent parents who cared enough to educate themselves about gender dysphoria and seek help for their child.
 
Old 05-14-2013, 04:46 AM
 
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The only ignorance I see is in a person putting any significant amount of stock in an insanely small sample size to draw a conclusion from.
"an insanely small sample size"?

You didn't bother to click on that link either? Like you haven't read the article or watched the video in the OP?

How else do you explain completely overlooking more than 40 years worth of studies on gay and lesbian parents and their children?
 
Old 05-14-2013, 04:51 AM
 
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Clueless
Breathtakingly so.
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