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Old 09-12-2011, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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FACT 4: On September 11, 2001, at 5:20PM, EDT, World Trade Center Building 7 suddenly and rapidly collapsed. Beginning with the penthouse, all 47 stories of it imploded into its own footprint in less than seven seconds. Three different videos of Building 7’s vertical collapse – two from CBS video broadcasts, and one from an NBC news camera – can be seen online at http://wtc7.net/videos.html.
WTC 7 was a much smaller building than the two towers and yet it fell in 18 seconds according to seismic readings. Seismic data from multiple sources indicates that, the collapse of WTC 7
began slowly, completely unlike an explosive demolition but consistent with internal failures leading
to global collapse.

 
Old 09-12-2011, 09:23 AM
 
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Which part isn't true?...
For starters--as has been repeated, but you don't actually READ anything anyone else posts:

WTC 7 was not one of the tallest buildings in lower Manhattan.

And Stratesec/Securacomm was NEVER in charge of security for the World Trade Center. They did some security consulting work in the 1990's, along with other similar firms that were retained to do analyses of different areas of WTC security after the 1993 bombing.

Saying that they were in charge of security when anyone remotely familiar with the WTC knows that is not true just makes one sound ignorant.
 
Old 09-12-2011, 09:26 AM
 
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Just to clarify, you DO actually know what "into it's own footprint" means, don't you ?

There has been a variety of posts (supported by photographic evidence) saying that WTC7's debris fell across a wide area, and indeed, struck other buildings.
$1.2 billion worth of damage was done to the Verizon building alone, a large part of which was building 7.

If it had fallen into it's own footprint, it wouldn't have hit anything else.

Implosion, yes.
Own footprint, clearly not.

NEXT please.

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with just a few small fires burning within it, at 5:20PM EDT this massive concrete and steel-framed 47-story skyscraper imploded into its own footprint in less than seven seconds.
 
Old 09-12-2011, 09:26 AM
 
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[/indent]FACT 10: “It is inconceivable that anyone could be running around placing explosives in exactly the right places all within seven hours. In fact, implosions take a minimum of two weeks and up to two months to plan and place the charges. The fire department of New York does not even train their personnel to do controlled demolition. They are done by highly skilled experienced specialists who plan and test far ahead.”

FACT 11: “… [George W.] Bush’s brother, Marvin Bush, and his cousin, Wirt Walker III, were principles in the company [Stratesec, formerly named Securacom] that was in charge of security for the World Trade Center, with Walker being the CEO from 1999 until January 2002.”

Larry Silverstein, stated in so many words that the building had been collapsed by demolition. It takes weeks, if not months, to prepare the demolition of a building as large as WTC 7; this implosion could not have been engineered and implemented in seven chaotic hours on September 11th.
again...not facts

fact it would have taken 6 MONTHS OR MORE to wire those buoildings

silverstein only took the lease 3 month before

FACT marvin bush had NOTHING to do with the WTC after 1998

I knew somebody would bring up the lie about 'marvin bush'

bush was a STOCKHOLDER in a company called Securacom (later Stratesec),that LOST the contract in 1998

Securacom got the $8.3 million World Trade Center security contract in October 1996 and received about $9.2 million from the WTC job from 1996 (a quarter of its revenues that year) to 1998. But in 1998, the company was "excused from the project" because it could not fulfill the work, according to former manager Al Weinstein, and the electronic security work at the WTC was taken over by EJ Electric, a larger contractor.
The Long Island City, N.Y.-based contractor installed 2 million feet of fiber-optic cable, hundreds of security cameras, access control and 110 turnstiles, including systems integration. The parking garage also became restricted after a terrorist drove a van, containing a bomb, into the underground parking garage in 1993.


and as far as bush goes

Marvin Bush was reelected annually to Securacom's board of directors from 1993 through 1999. His final reelection was on May 25, 1999, for July 1999 to June 2000. Throughout, he also served on the company's Audit Committee and Compensation Committee, and his stock holdings grew during the period. Directors had options to purchase 25,000 shares of stock annually. In 1996, Bush acquired 53,000 shares at 52 cents per share. Shares in the 1997 IPO sold at $8.50. Records since 2000 no longer list Bush as a shareholder.



so much for HC's facts (lies)
 
Old 09-12-2011, 09:26 AM
 
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with just a few small fires burning within it, at 5:20PM EDT this massive concrete and steel-framed 47-story skyscraper imploded into its own footprint in less than seven seconds.
So there we have it. Instead of going to my link and looking at the information posted there and commenting on it, you are simply going to regurgitate what you've already claimed without providing any support to back up those claims, and still expect us to simply take your word for it.

"I'd love to have the faith to believe (that it was all a big government conspiracy) - - - but I have thoughts. And we all know that thoughts can screw up the faith thing - - - ask any Catholic priest!"
- Lewis Black
 
Old 09-12-2011, 09:28 AM
 
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A major aspect of 9/11 has been excluded from the entire U.S. media after September 11th, and was also omitted from The 9/11 Commission Report. This was the sudden fall to earth, on September 11th, 2001, of World Trade Center Building 7. Not hit by airplane or significant debris, 300 feet from the closest Twin Tower, and with just a few small fires burning within it, at 5:20PM EDT this massive concrete and steel-framed 47-story skyscraper imploded into its own footprint in less than seven seconds.
Ummm....they were saying on TV for hours that it was going to fall, so how is this "sudden"?

oops, didn't realize it was you, HC475. I realize you are just going to keep repeating the same falsehoods even when shown the facts.

Have a lovely time with that hobby.
 
Old 09-12-2011, 09:28 AM
 
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Just to clarify, you DO actually know what "into it's own footprint" means, don't you ?

There has been a variety of posts (supported by photographic evidence) saying that WTC7's debris fell across a wide area, and indeed, struck other buildings.
$1.2 billion worth of damage was done to the Verizon building alone, a large part of which was building 7.

If it had fallen into it's own footprint, it wouldn't have hit anything else.

Implosion, yes.
Own footprint, clearly not.

NEXT please.
Yes... It's own footprint means straight down... in 7 seconds... That means every single support column would have to fail simultaneously... in other words... controlled demolition...
 
Old 09-12-2011, 09:30 AM
 
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WTC 7 was a much smaller building than the two towers and yet it fell in 18 seconds according to seismic readings. Seismic data from multiple sources indicates that, the collapse of WTC 7
began slowly, completely unlike an explosive demolition but consistent with internal failures leading
to global collapse.
Flat out lie... it collapsed in 7 seconds...
 
Old 09-12-2011, 09:32 AM
 
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Just to clarify, you DO actually know what "into it's own footprint" means, don't you ?

SNIP

Implosion, yes.
Own footprint, clearly not.

NEXT please.

LOL, bobman, I had this same conversation with Rainman here a few pages back. It's futile. And no, he doesn't understand, or rather, does not want to understand, what "into it's own footprint" means, as you can see by his response.
 
Old 09-12-2011, 09:33 AM
 
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Flat out lie... it collapsed in 7 seconds...
seismic data says otherwise

sorry you lose
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