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FACT 2:[/b] WTC Building 7 – on its 23rd floor – housed an Emergency Command Center for the City of New York that Mayor Rudolph Giuliani had built in the mid-1990’s. On the morning of September 11th, Mayor Giuliani did not go “to his Command Center – with its clear view of the Twin Towers – but to a makeshift, street-level headquarters at 75 Barkley Street.”WTC 7 also held theoffices of numerous government agencies, includingthe Department of Defense, the CIA, the Secret Service, the IRS, and the Security and Exchange Commission (SEC). Late 2001 was the time of “the height of the investigation into Enron, so the majority of Enron’s SEC filings were likely destroyed when World Trade Center 7 came down.”
and your point
blatent mistruth
who occupied building 7
At the time of the September 11, 2001 attacks, Salomon Smith Barney was by far the largest tenant in 7 World Trade Center, occupying 1,202,900 sq ft (111,750 m²) (64 percent of the building) which included floors 28–45. Other major tenants included ITT Hartford Insurance Group (122,590 sq ft/11,400 m²), American Express Bank International (106,117 sq ft/9,900 m²), Standard Chartered Bank (111,398 sq ft/10,350 m²), and the Securities and Exchange Commission (106,117 sq ft/9,850 m²).[24] Smaller tenants included the Internal Revenue Service Regional Council (90,430 sq ft/8,400 m²) and the United States Secret Service (85,343 sq ft/7,900 m²). The smallest tenants included the New York City Office of Emergency Management, National Association of Insurance Commissioners, Federal Home Loan Bank, First State Management Group Inc., Provident Financial Management, and the Immigration and Naturalization Service. The Department of Defense (DOD) and Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) shared the 25th floor with the IRS. Floors 46–47 were mechanical floors, as were the bottom six floors and part of the seventh floor
nice that you cherry pick the smallest occupents
now do you think smith barney is going to allow workmen at least 6 months to wire a building and destroy it
Just answer the question... Which part isn't true?...
Which part WAS TRUE? Just posting a laundry list of extraordinary claims doesn't make them true. They are YOUR claims, therefore yours to prove, not mine to disprove, even though I have posted a link that dispells much of those claims. Did you read the stuff at the link I provided?
FACT 3:WTC Building 7 was not hit by airplane or significant debris on September 11th. It had been evacuated after the planes hit the towers. By the afternoon of September 11th, there were a few small fires of unknown origin evident in the building, and these small fires could be seen in only a few of the hundreds and hundreds of windows in the building.
ANOTHER LIE ... there was debris damage to one corner of the building ... but in the photos already posted you can clearly see that the fires were minimal ... and there are several examples of buildings around the world that have been totally gutted by fires with no failure to the steel super structure. Also, damage to other WTC buildings closer to the towers were much more severe, and none of them suffered this "global" collapse. They had to be manually taken down afterward.
Even if there was severe damage to one side of the building (and it could only be one side, since all other sides show no damage), the collapse couldn't have been symmetrical given asymmetrical damage. If the damage was on the south facing portion of the building, the building would have collapsed to the south were this "severe" damage occurred ... not straight down[/quote]
are you calling the firemen liars???????
Battalion Chief John Norman
Special Operations Command - 22 years
From there, we looked out at 7 World Trade Center again. You could see smoke, but no visible fire, and some damage to the south face. You couldn’t really see from where we were on the west face of the building, but at the edge of the south face you could see that it was very heavily damaged.
http://www.firehouse.com/terrorist/9...gz/norman.html (broken link)
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Captain Chris Boyle
Engine 94 - 18 years
Boyle: ...on the north and east side of 7 it didn’t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn’t look good.
Firehouse: When you looked at the south side, how close were you to the base of that side?
Boyle: I was standing right next to the building, probably right next to it.
Firehouse: When you had fire on the 20 floors, was it in one window or many?
Boyle: There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered throughout there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably about a third of it, right in the middle of it. And so after Visconti came down and said nobody goes in 7, we said all right, we’ll head back to the command post. We lost touch with him. I never saw him again that day.
http://www.firehouse.com/terrorist/9.../gz/boyle.html (broken link)
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The biggest decision we had to make was to clear the area and create a collapse zone around the severely damaged [WTC Building 7]. A number of fire officers and companies assessed the damage to the building. The appraisals indicated that the building's integrity was in serious doubt. Fire chief Daniel Nigro
William Harvey
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then there is the TIME of you photo
Deputy Chief Peter Hayden
Division 1 - 33 years
...also we were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Center would collapse. Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors. It came down about 5 o’clock in the afternoon, but by about 2 o’clock in the afternoon we realized this thing was going to collapse.
Firehouse: Was there heavy fire in there right away?
Hayden: No, not right away, and that’s probably why it stood for so long because it took a while for that fire to develop. It was a heavy body of fire in there and then we didn’t make any attempt to fight it. That was just one of those wars we were just going to lose. We were concerned about the collapse of a 47-story building there. We were worried about additional collapse there of what was remaining standing of the towers and the Marriott, so we started pulling the people back after a couple of hours of surface removal and searches along the surface of the debris. We started to pull guys back because we were concerned for their safety.
http://www.firehouse.com/terrorist/9...gz/hayden.html (broken link)
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sorry but I will belive my own eyes and that of the firemen, before I will believe some anymonous poster
At the time of the September 11, 2001 attacks, Salomon Smith Barney was by far the largest tenant in 7 World Trade Center, occupying 1,202,900 sq ft (111,750 m²) (64 percent of the building) which included floors 28–45. Other major tenants included ITT Hartford Insurance Group (122,590 sq ft/11,400 m²), American Express Bank International (106,117 sq ft/9,900 m²), Standard Chartered Bank (111,398 sq ft/10,350 m²), and the Securities and Exchange Commission (106,117 sq ft/9,850 m²).[24] Smaller tenants included the Internal Revenue Service Regional Council (90,430 sq ft/8,400 m²) and the United States Secret Service (85,343 sq ft/7,900 m²). The smallest tenants included the New York City Office of Emergency Management, National Association of Insurance Commissioners, Federal Home Loan Bank, First State Management Group Inc., Provident Financial Management, and the Immigration and Naturalization Service. The Department of Defense (DOD) and Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) shared the 25th floor with the IRS. Floors 46–47 were mechanical floors, as were the bottom six floors and part of the seventh floor
nice that you cherry pick the smallest occupents
now do you think smith barney is going to allow workmen at least 6 months to wire a building and destroy it
think
FACT 10: “It is inconceivable that anyone could be running around placing explosives in exactly the right places all within seven hours. In fact, implosions take a minimum of two weeks and up to two months to plan and place the charges. The fire department of New York does not even train their personnel to do controlled demolition. They are done by highly skilled experienced specialists who plan and test far ahead.”
FACT 11: “… [George W.] Bush’s brother, Marvin Bush, and his cousin, Wirt Walker III, were principles in the company [Stratesec, formerly named Securacom] that was in charge of security for the World Trade Center, with Walker being the CEO from 1999 until January 2002.”
Larry Silverstein, stated in so many words that the building had been collapsed by demolition. It takes weeks, if not months, to prepare the demolition of a building as large as WTC 7; this implosion could not have been engineered and implemented in seven chaotic hours on September 11th.
Tallest does not mean largest... as far as Lower Manahattan goes... WTC 7 was one of the largest...
Reading is fundamental...
But that is not what you claimed. You claimed it was one of the largest in (all of) Manhatten. Now you are moving the goalpost. The fact is that Manhatten has MANY very large buildings. So frelling what?
But that is not what you claimed. You claimed it was one of the largest in (all of) Manhatten. Now you are moving the goalpost. The fact is that Manhatten has MANY very large buildings. So frelling what?
A major aspect of 9/11 has been excluded from the entire U.S. media after September 11th, and was also omitted from The 9/11 Commission Report. This was the sudden fall to earth, on September 11th, 2001, of World Trade Center Building 7. Not hit by airplane or significant debris, 300 feet from the closest Twin Tower, and with just a few small fires burning within it, at 5:20PM EDT this massive concrete and steel-framed 47-story skyscraper imploded into its own footprint in less than seven seconds.
I am seeing "9/11 was a hoax" on recent threads.
I am also trying to understand this statement.
If you do believe that, please fill me in. (This is not snarky; I really am trying to understand what it is that so many are convinced of. Maybe I'll be convinced? Who knows?)
What I know is:
- A plane hit each World Trade Center tower
- A plane crashed in PA
- A plane hit the Pentagon
- From cell phone convos, we know what happened on those planes
- We know Muslim terrorists were carrying out a plan
- The twin towers each collapsed (and some people are saying they "impoded," is this an "alternative theory" to the one that says the heat was too much for internal steel beams and they collapsed from the heat?)
- Thousands of people died between the Towers, Pentagon, and Shanksville field, including plane passengers and rescue/emergecy personnel.
So which parts am I getting wrong?
Yep and the moon is not out there. It is a fig-newton of one's imagination.
A major aspect of 9/11 has been excluded from the entire U.S. media after September 11th, and was also omitted from The 9/11 Commission Report. This was the sudden fall to earth, on September 11th, 2001, of World Trade Center Building 7. Not hit by airplane or significant debris, 300 feet from the closest Twin Tower, and with just a few small fires burning within it, at 5:20PM EDT this massive concrete and steel-framed 47-story skyscraper imploded into its own footprint in less than seven seconds.
with just a few small fires burning within it, at 5:20PM EDT this massive concrete and steel-framed 47-story skyscraper imploded into its own footprint in less than seven seconds.
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