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Old 07-18-2011, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Or, Obama warned the country that not raising the debt ceiling would have dire consequences, and that social security checks might not be mailed out on schedule.

You see threat because you want to see Obama in the worst possible light. Any other perspective doesn't see threat.
We all see threat but you. He ONLY targeted people receiving SS checks..no other group at all, no other program..ONLY SS people.
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I disagree. A 3 to 1 birth rate (women on public assistance have a birth rate 3 times that of those not on public assistance) exponentially grows the dependent class. Supporting them and their exponentially increasing numbers will very quickly become completely unsustainable.

As it is, we are already at the point in which 51% pay NO Federal Income Tax. The majority now pay NO Federal Income Tax.
http://finance.senate.gov/newsroom/r...1-ffc00b5c00ef
Please provide a link. Everything I have read shows the birthrates being very similar. If that were correct, it would mean that women on public assistance are having 6-7 kids on average, as the general birth rate is 2.1 births per woman.
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:07 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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If you look at the steady drop for Obama here since the day he said he wouldn't guarantee any Social Security checks after August 2, it becomes more and more apparent that some old people are being called and they are not happy. Obama better hurry up and apologize for saying that or start blaming Geithner for saying the words. Only two people can stop the checks from going out and they are the two. I wonder if he took his shoe off before he stuck his foot in his mouth and what he had stepped in if he didn't.

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Old 07-18-2011, 04:09 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Please provide a link. Everything I have read shows the birthrates being very similar. If that were correct, it would mean that women on public assistance are having 6-7 kids on average, as the general birth rate is 2.1 births per woman.

Anchor babies are at an all time high.

It is common for an illegal to have one right after another. That is how they make a living.
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Anchor babies are at an all time high.

It is common for an illegal to have one right after another. That is how they make a living.
Please provide a link to support this 3 to 1 nonsense.
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Total BS. If it wasn't a threat against certain American citizens, Obama would have explained how it might be necessary to not pay the states' block grants. That didn't happen. Instead, Obama overtly threatened America's senior citizens - a plan that has already been floated by Obama's Treasury.
And the average senior citizen would've said, "WTF is a block grant?" However, in this case, Obama decided to use his brain and put it in a way they could understand. It's not a threat if it happens, right? It's reality.

People assume other people are just as smart as they are and can see things the way/from the angle they see them from. People are wrong. A lot of people are dumb as rocks. I'm sure of one thing though.....I bet saying, "You might not be able to eat/pay your rent/pay for your medication/be able to live." gets more attention than, "Woah.....Block grants might not get paid.'
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:18 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Please provide a link. Everything I have read shows the birthrates being very similar.
Here you go:
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"The 1996 Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act (PRWORA) gave states greater flexibility to formulate and implement initiatives to reduce welfare dependency and encourage employment for members of low-income families with children. For the nation, in 2006, 10 years after passage of the Act, the birth rate for women 15 to 50 years old receiving public assistance income in the last 12 months was 155 births per 1,000 women, about three times the rate for women not receiving public assistance (53 births per 1,000 women)."
http://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p20-558.pdf

And very similar stats in the 2010 release:
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For the nation, the birth rate for women receiving public assistance was 160 births per 1,000 women, almost three times the rate for women not receiving public assistance (56 births per 1,000 women).
http://www.census.gov/prod/2010pubs/p20-563.pdf

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Old 07-18-2011, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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You completely missed the issue. The problem is the demographic Obama threatened. Where did Obama state the consequences for the welfare-dependent class? Why consequences for those who have already paid, but no consequences for those who pay nothing and only take?
Demographic(s).

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7373061n

Here's the video.

You think veterans with disabilities have paid nothing and only take.
No, probably not. But that's what you just argued.
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:34 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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And the average senior citizen would've said, "WTF is a block grant?" However, in this case, Obama decided to use his brain and put it in a way they could understand.
Obama threatened America's senior citizens. He could have just as easily threatened anyone receiving Federally funded social welfare services and entitlements, but he didn't.

And make NO mistake. America's senior citizens are VERY aware that it was the SS system they've paid into for decades that was threatened. The freebie welfare entitlements that the parasitic recipients DID NOT pay for were not threatened.

Obama aims to let the welfare looting continue at the senior citizens' expense.
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Anchor babies are at an all time high.

It is common for an illegal to have one right after another. That is how they make a living.
Geeze just come on down to Texas..4-5 kids is the norm.
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