The Social Security checks not available comment is kicking in. (employment, poll)
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Social secuity checks will likely not stop, but Obama was right not to sugarcoat the issue and tell Americans that this is the kind of thing that is to a significant degree funded from federal borrowing and that ultimately everything is on the table if this issue isn't resolved.
At any rate, you'd think conservatives around here would be happy about this prospect after all of their talk of the liberal socialist entitlements that are hurting the country. Here's an opportunity to see a significant and drastic spending cut go into effect.
The talk of SS being an entitlement is purely political. We have been paying to SS, in my case, for over 65 years and don't consider it to be an entitlement. You can't reasonably compare SS to any kind of welfare where the recipients don't pay income taxes or any kind of federal tax other than some hidden taxes that we all pay.
i am sure you don't have much of an idea how many votes Obama would lose if he cuts off SS checks for even one month. He meant that as a threat and it backed up on him.
I'm still waiting to hear him say the welfare checks won't go out on 8/3.
Me, too.
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People contributed to SS yet that was the only payment Obama mentioned.
America's senior citizens won't get the retirement income they paid for for decades, but freebie entitlements to the dependent class will continue as scheduled.
The lesson Obama is giving ALL is... Contribute, and you're screwed. Contribute nothing, and you're golden.
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Social secuity checks will likely not stop, but Obama was right not to sugarcoat the issue and tell Americans that this is the kind of thing that is to a significant degree funded from federal borrowing and that ultimately everything is on the table if this issue isn't resolved.
At any rate, you'd think conservatives around here would be happy about this prospect after all of their talk of the liberal socialist entitlements that are hurting the country. Here's an opportunity to see a significant and drastic spending cut go into effect.
What I'm seeing in this thread is that the CD pundits wanted Obama to either A. not mention the consequences or B. lie about it. Since C. he did neither, they explain that he did this to scare people. I guess when the President tells you bad stuff he's bad, and when he tells you nothing or lies about it, he's also bad. Poor guy, he just can't win.
I dunno about you, but not having any money coming in scares the hell out of me. Yes, there might be money to pay it. Will there be someone to make sure it gets paid?
What I'm seeing in this thread is that the CD pundits wanted Obama to either A. not mention the consequences or B. lie about it.
You completely missed the issue. The problem is the demographic Obama threatened. Where did Obama state the consequences for the welfare-dependent class? Why consequences for those who have already paid, but no consequences for those who pay nothing and only take?
It'd be a shame if family had to care for our old folks, wouldn't it?
If it were possible, we would. Grandma needs round-the -clock care, & MIL works to support herself, & My husband works to support us & our 3 children. I don't work as my youngest child has cerebral palsy, & I must care for him. I know several families this will affect.
He should delay the checks for a week and blame the Responsible Republicans holding up the debt celing increase.
Let me say that what you propose may have worked but as of now he has been more than exposed. Only he can hold up those checks and what you suggest tells anyone, with some thinking capacity, that he is using politics in an attempt to push the Republicans on the debt ceiling issue. Holding those checks back would prove it and using old people as a weapon against the other party proves what he is trying to do.
Those checks must go out on time and only Obama can stop them from doing so. You do know that don't you? Here is a chance for you to see that when the Treasury Department is asked questions by Republicans they answer with pure bureaucratic gobbledy ****.
This thread is filled with inaccuracies - nothing new for this forum. And although I'm retired and have the time to provide more accurate information, I'd rather work in the yard.
I read your link and found it to sound very much like an editorial column by the way it was worded. Just putting Fact Checker in the title of an article doesn't make it real.
How about you telling me where the $50 billion a year from Medicare comes from. I aid $50 billion because I am so tired of the Obamas talking about everything in 10 year increments. I guess if they will still be around in 10 years that is ok but I doubt that many of them will be. For example, everything they talk about concerning the debt ceiling thing turns out in 10 year increments. They try to make their amounts of money for cuts sound very large by saying we will cut this by $200 billion but it turns out they mean for 10 years. I don't think $20 billion a year will make much of a dent in the debt, but maybe you really eat all that up.
You did find one very true statement to quote. The one that says they will be taking money from the providers and not the people getting help. Of course, I can prove that by looking at what Medicare paid for my last endoscopy. Obamacare was barely in effect when my surgeon turned in his bill for the same amount as he has been getting every year for 10 years, about 60% of what he asked for. This last time he was cut about 15%. That makes me think that my state medicare board is really a death squad since prices don't go down over 10 years except on cars and the like.
Maybe you best get out in the yard since your link wasn't at all what you purported it to be.
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Grandma needs round-the -clock care, & MIL works to support herself, & My husband works to support us & our 3 children. I don't work as my youngest child has cerebral palsy, & I must care for him. I know several families this will affect.
