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Old 06-03-2011, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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The creep clung to life with all ten fingernails.
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Old 06-03-2011, 08:06 AM
 
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He had been hospitalized for a month with pneumonia and kidney problems. The nurses were playing Bach for him at the end. They likely knew it was coming close...he must have known. I call him a coward for hanging on when he ushered people out in the name of mercy.
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The creep clung to life with all ten fingernails.
Love your frothing-at-the-mouth ignorance.

The fact that he didn't use euthanasia himself only proves the highly clinical and prudent nature of his practice.

Do you [MOD CUT] even know the kind of people he helped? The kind of suffering they were in?

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Old 06-03-2011, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Reality
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The ultimate choice that a human can make is to live or die, every person should have that right whether they're physically capable of making it happen or not. I don't believe in suicide nor do I plan on killing myself but that's my choice, not the choice of anyone else. Anyone who's had a relative live years or decades in a vegetative state knows that quality of life means something. If someone wants out of their misery and can make that choice their wishes should be honored.
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Old 06-03-2011, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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To say that this is a left or right issue, or to try to fit it into any political ideology, trivializes the unnecessary suffering of the terminally ill in a culture where doctors still get away with denying pain relieving medications to the dying.

I hope that anyone who tries to turn assisted suicide into a political bone to be fought over one day finds themselves in an agony of pain, knowing they're going to die anyway, dealing with a sadistic system which denies them the simplest dignity and compassion of pain relieving medications.

I hope you can put a political label on your pain, when you are writhing in agony and run into a doctor who is so bullied by the government and big pHARMa that he's just going to let you suffer, rather than step out of his little chickens**t hole long enough to give you a prescription that will at least let you live your final days in a little less pain.
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Old 06-03-2011, 08:26 AM
 
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Love your frothing-at-the-mouth ignorance.

The fact that he didn't use euthanasia himself only proves the highly clinical and prudent nature of his practice.

Do you [MOD CUT] even know the kind of people he helped? The kind of suffering they were in?
Yes. I do. I watched my mother-in-law die about 4 months ago. She had parkinson's and alzheimers. It was horrible.

I also watched her devoted husband of 51 years stay by her side until the end. I helped take her to the hair dresser or the doctor, etc. I watched her degrade. My father-in-law had a group of 8 guys that would come on a rotation every Sunday to get them to church. They were the pallbearers at her funeral. These men were blessed by the opportunity to serve. I personally thanked 4 of them on the day of the funeral--one being an 18 year old kid. His dad stood there grinning ear to ear with pride in his boy.

But it's not up to us to decide when it's time to go. The act of suicide is total arrogance. A selfish act like that denies others the chance to bless you by serving, and it makes a statement that you are somehow able to tell God you can make a better decision than he can.

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Old 06-03-2011, 08:28 AM
 
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He had been hospitalized for a month with pneumonia and kidney problems. The nurses were playing Bach for him at the end. They likely knew it was coming close...he must have known. I call him a coward for hanging on when he ushered people out in the name of mercy.
Hello! Again he did not have a terminal illness. I think maybe you should read up on what he did and why.
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Old 06-03-2011, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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Yes. I do. I watched my mother-in-law die about 4 months ago. She had parkinson's and alzheimers. It was horrible.

I also watched her devoted husband of 51 years stay by her side until the end. I helped take her to the hair dresser or the doctor, etc. I watched her degrade. My father-in-law had a group of 8 guys that would come on a rotation every Sunday to get them to church. They were the pallbearers at her funeral. These men were blessed by the opportunity to serve. I personally thanked 4 of them on the day of the funeral--one being an 18 year old kid. His dad stood there grinning ear to ear with pride in his boy.

But it's not up to us to decide when it's time to go. The act of suicide is total arrogance. A selfish act like that denies others the chance to bless you by serving, and it makes a statement that you are somehow able to tell God you can make a better decision than he can.

There's a special place in Hell for people like you. I don't say that lightly. You turned your mother-in-law's pain into a selfish experience for yourself. How dare you? How dare you force that selfishness on others?

There may soon be a point in time where my cancer moves from curable and stable to unmanageable and refractory. Have you ever faced that?

I am 23. I might not live to see my 25th birthday. There's nothing dignified about forcing my parents to take care of me if I reach the point where I cannot take care of myself. If it gets to that point, I would have to move 1000 miles away to where my parents live away from friends, the rest of my extended family, and everything I know and love. Without assisted suicide, I would die in pain and alone. In the past few months, I have gone through more pain than you can possibly imagine. If it reaches the point that the rest of my life looks like it's going to continue down that path, I have people in place to help me shorten it.

It is absolutely despicable that people like you make it so that I cannot do this with dignity and that the people who love me enough to help me face criminal charges. By the time I get to that point, I will not physically be able to procure the drugs to make this possible for me. Committing suicide alone is much more traumatic and dirty for my family than doing it with the approval of all involved.

Come back and talk to me when you have a terminal illness. Until then, you're a selfish, heartless shell of a person.
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Old 06-03-2011, 08:39 AM
 
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And God finds some sort of noble joy in watching His children suffer needlessly? Not MY God!
Which God do you worship? Sounds like your god is more of your own making.
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Old 06-03-2011, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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Disgusting post that you suggest God takes pleasure in suffering.
Why does He create it then? If you were an all-powerful being, what reasons would you have for making or allowing your children to suffer?

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Old 06-03-2011, 08:43 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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The Left loves killing people.
The right loves making people suffer
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