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Got a non-religious argument for why this should remain illegal? Because Amendment 1 says we can't make laws based solely on religion.
A. amendment 1 says there is no establishment of a specific religion (those who wrote and voted on the amendment never would have dreamed that some liberal court would not know how to read)
B. here are your argument's even with the court's evil ruling
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I wonder how many he assisted to die for the convenience of their families and that was all.
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A study in the Netherlands found that one in four doctors said they had killed patients without an explicit request--including one doctor who believed that a dying Dutch nun was prevented from requesting euthanasia because of her religion, so he felt the just and merciful thing to do was to decide for her.
A. amendment 1 says there is no establishment of a specific religion (those who wrote and voted on the amendment never would have dreamed that some liberal court would not know how to read)
We could discuss that somewhere else, I suppose. Not appropriate here.
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B. here are your argument's even with the court's evil ruling
1. I wonder how many he assisted to die for the convenience of their families and that was all.
None. There was always extensive sessions with the person in question to determine whether that was the case. Dr. Kervorkian was compassionate, not stupid
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2. A study in the Netherlands found that one in four doctors said they had killed patients without an explicit request--including one doctor who believed that a dying Dutch nun was prevented from requesting euthanasia because of her religion, so he felt the just and merciful thing to do was to decide for her.
What does that have to do with Dr. Kervorkian? Nothing.
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is that good enough for you.
Kinda haphazard and intellectually dishonest, but I guess it'll be the best I will get from you.
None. There was always extensive sessions with the person in question to determine whether that was the case. Dr. Kervorkian was compassionate, not stupid
Examining the Kevorkian suicides, the Free Press found that in clear violation of his own written standards:
KEVORKIAN HAS FAILED to consult psychiatrists, even when dealing with depressed people.
KEVORKIAN HAS FAILED to observe minimum waiting periods before helping people to die.
KEVORKIAN HAS FAILED to consult with pain specialists and other medical experts, even when the need was clearly indicated.
KEVORKIAN HAS FAILED to discover financial or family problems that may have contributed to a patient's wish to die.
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What does that have to do with Dr. Kervorkian? Nothing.
it has everything to do with why "assisted suicide" should be illegal (which was what you asked me) even with out using a single argument that could be interpreted as religious.
assuming assisted suicide is not murder (and since there are certain people here who don't seem to know how to read this does not mean I think that it's not murder) If 25% of assisted suicide in a country such as Netherlands where it is legal are in fact murder according to every definition of the word then I would be very against a law that would allow assisted suicides even if we would say (which I repeat I don't) that there is nothing wrong with killing someone who is deemed to be mortally ill, in a lot of pain, mentally sound, and requests for you to kill them, due to the fact that in practice people who don't meet all those requirements have been killed.
He had been hospitalized for a month with pneumonia and kidney problems. The nurses were playing Bach for him at the end. They likely knew it was coming close...he must have known. I call him a coward for hanging on when he ushered people out in the name of mercy.
You seem to have missed the point. He did not force his assistance on anyone. They were not his victims. They sought out his help.
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He always videotaped his work, it was all documented over a period of time. Can you provide the vid for this one, that you want to call a murder?
We want to relieve suffering, not cause more of it. Yes, we could put a bag over our head, but that's a horrible way to go, and most of us wouldn't be able to resist pulling it off. Doctors limit the type and amount of medication we are allowed access to. A gun may not kill, but just injure all the more, plus cause our family to suffer.
A concoction of drugs made up by a professional, is the best method I can think of.
It was taped for 60 minutes....that is how he became a martyr to his cause.
You seem to miss the point do whatever you want to off yourself,I don't care,but you don't need someone else doing it for you and you don't need a law to make you feel better about doing it.
Just go jump in a river or stick your head in a bucket full of water.
As to it being painful,so what?The pain will pass and you won't remember a thing....ever again.
jack kevorkian, crusader for right to assisted suicide, dies aged 83 at michigan hospital - the washington post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/jack-kevorkian-crusader-for-right-to-assisted-suicide-dies-aged-83-at-michigan-hospital/2011/06/03/agx5buhh_story.html - broken link)
jack kevorkian, crusader for right to assisted suicide, dies aged 83.
RIP. I have no problems with assisted suicide for those who want to die.
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