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Old 04-07-2011, 09:08 AM
 
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State sponsored racism.

He's one statist mofo.
Unfortunately you don't see him being punished.
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:28 PM
 
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I wonder what the right answer would have been? How would anyone answer that question?
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:43 PM
 
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Next time, tell them you're a lawyer.

Automatic boot.
I got booted three times by telling them I was one of the founders of the Fully Informed Jury Association.

The third time, everyone in the hallway clapped and applauded after I explained what it was.

You could see flames coming out the nostrils of the judge and the prosecutor.

"Again, one cannot argue for the “orderly administration of justice,” which has, at its foundation, the informed and independent juror, while arguing against providing the jurors with this knowledge of their authority and proper role in our justice system. One cannot, in good faith or honesty, argue against providing that information to all jurors in any instance, at any time or place. Quite the contrary: under our system of justice, all jurors should be informed of this authority at the time they are first requested to serve on jury duty."

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Old 04-07-2011, 11:46 PM
 
Location: Earth
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https://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...ndefinite.html

Duplicate thread.
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:47 PM
 
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Shullbit!
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Old 04-08-2011, 12:29 AM
 
Location: La lune et les Ă©toiles
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I hope she has a good attorney and can appeal that nonsense. It's not a crime to have opinions.
However, it is a crime to perjure one's self in order to avoid one's civic duty. How very un-American of that woman.
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Old 04-08-2011, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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Yep, she makes a good juror so let's keep her coming back. Geesh.
Ha, great point!

It's ridiculous to sentence her to anything, it's her opinion and she should have been dismissed from the jury pool.

To make a big deal out of this is a great use of taxpayer funds.
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Old 04-08-2011, 01:10 AM
 
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Dupe thread: https://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...ndefinite.html

For what it's worth, the judge is well within his right to do that.
No he's not, it's an abuse of power. Even though her comments / answers were wrong at least she's honest about her feelings.

That's why jurors are screened. Would you prefer that she lied about her racist attitude and had to sit in judgement of someone else???
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Old 04-08-2011, 04:15 AM
 
Location: The Beautiful Pocono Mountains
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I wonder what the right answer would have been? How would anyone answer that question?
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Perjury?

Perjury is actually committing a crime. Answering a question with an opinion is not committing a crime.

She got "sentenced" for giving her opinion. Makes no sense....
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:12 AM
 
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No he's not, it's an abuse of power. Even though her comments / answers were wrong at least she's honest about her feelings.
What makes you think that she was honest? She was asked for three individuals she disliked and she responded with three racial groups. We weren't in the courtroom so we couldn't see this prospective juror's demeanor or attitude, but it's really not hard to imagine that she was just lying to try and get off a jury. Heck, it's more likely that happened than that she's prejudiced against three major minority groups and the NYPD.

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The third time, everyone in the hallway clapped and applauded after I explained what it was.
Anybody else picturing the climax of a bad Adam Sandler movie when you picture ergohead saying "Jury nullification is your right!" and dozens of people spontaneously cheering while the lawyers and judge sulk?

Just to be clear, jury nullification is a literal violation of the oath you take as a juror to obey the law. If you feel that the oath you take is worth less than your own personal feelings, then fair enough. I would almost certainly not vote to convict somebody on a marijuana possession charge, for example.
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