Why do White (and now Hispanic) security tend to overact when a Black person simply raises their voice (Part 2) (suspect, Miami)
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I wrote this thread just a couple weeks ago. Long story short, I was yelling at my boyfriend in a nightclub and next thing I know some security guy grabs me by my arm, pulls me away...and then starts literally shoving me towards the exit and then threatens me with an arrest and "You're gonna go to jail". All because I simply repeated (to my boyfriend), "YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DISRESPECT ME IN THIS CLUB!" I was trying to bring up a real issue some areas in this country is facing.
Really? Well I'll be damned
I was all the way out in Albuquerque, NM and happened to glance at the NY times at this article about police in Miami, my hometown. I bet in each case, the guy (the suspect) probably did nothing wrong except not say, "yes sir" to each of the interrogating and the cops over-reacted.
That is awful, rude, and very unprofessional. It sounds like harassment to me considering a bodyguard holds a lot more power than you. And it's certainly undue influence. Sorry to hear about that.
It's an authoritarian nation so you'd better get used to weaving around the psychos on power trips. I can tell mostly by their body language and sneaky snake looking eyes on who likes to harass and abuse the trust and power.
I wrote this thread just a couple weeks ago. Long story short, I was yelling at my boyfriend in a nightclub and next thing I know some security guy grabs me by my arm, pulls me away...and then starts literally shoving me towards the exit and then threatens me with an arrest and "You're gonna go to jail". All because I simply repeated (to my boyfriend), "YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DISRESPECT ME IN THIS CLUB!" I was trying to bring up a real issue some areas in this country is facing. Yet, it gets dissed because it's not consider 'debate material'.
Really? Well I'll be damned
I was all the way out in Albuquerque, NM and happened to glance at the NY times at this article about police in Miami, my hometown. I bet in each case, the guy (the suspect) probably did nothing wrong except not say, "yes sir" to each of the interrogating and the cops over-reacted.
OP, I remember your previous thread on this topic. The situation (which you had explained in greater detail than this thread) was much more of a relationship issue and therefore probably more appropriate for the Relationship forum.
But with that being said...yes there is some bias in some situations involving Black people and non-Black law enforcement/authority figures but you need to take some time to reflect on your own actions in the situation as well, because every situation is not a racial incident.
If I recall correctly, your date ditched you at a club, basically dumped you for another guy which ticked you off. Sometimes people need to learn how to walk away and not escalate a situation unnecessarily. If someone doesn't want to be with you, why try to argue the point. They don't want to be with you. In your previous post, you came across as an aggressor with exhibiting harrassing behavior. Many people can solve their own problems by simply learning when to keep the mouth closed and walk away.
I think that you case is probably injured pride more than anything else.
I wrote this thread just a couple weeks ago. Long story short, I was yelling at my boyfriend in a nightclub and next thing I know some security guy grabs me by my arm, pulls me away...and then starts literally shoving me towards the exit and then threatens me with an arrest and "You're gonna go to jail". All because I simply repeated (to my boyfriend), "YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DISRESPECT ME IN THIS CLUB!" I was trying to bring up a real issue some areas in this country is facing. Yet, it gets dissed because it's not consider 'debate material'.
Really? Well I'll be damned
I was all the way out in Albuquerque, NM and happened to glance at the NY times at this article about police in Miami, my hometown. I bet in each case, the guy (the suspect) probably did nothing wrong except not say, "yes sir" to each of the interrogating and the cops over-reacted.
I use to work alot of clubs and bars while off duty for extra money and found the owners of these places had a "zero tolerance" for drama. They didn't want TABC ( state alcohol police here in Texas) getting involved in anything, nor did they want the local pd getting involved either. They wanted the business, just not the issues that come with pd showing up and having to arrest a person, or people. Race was never an issue (I worked Country and Hip Hop type clubs and biker bars) at the places where I worked. It was a matter of making money vs causing a disturbance and possibly having the po po come in and bother your other patrons......
Unless you can post footage of the incident, it's hard to take sides in this matter. And since YOU have decided that this is a race issue, or maybe a black woman problem, I will say that the majority of times that I have seen black women get agitated and mad, they are particularly aggressive in their body language. Not only do they raise keep raising their voice level (as if by sheer loudness they can make their opinion right and the other side wrong), but they raise their forefinger and stick in in their opponent's face and then do the neck thing.
But based on your personal experiences, I really don't see how you can make your situation a race issue. But have you been in situations where you were fighting with your boyfriend and black security guards ignored the situation and looked the other way? If they did, then I would say that those black security guards were not doing their job. And if you fight with your boyfriend a lot in public, then stop doing that.
I believe that ANY woman or man of any race that is fighting in public in an emotional fashion with a loud voice and wild physical gestures is going to be restrained and removed by security personnel. Other people who aren't involved in the disagreement just don't want to see this sort of thing, let alone in a nightclub where they are trying to have a good time.
Why couldn't you wait to fight with your boyfriend in private? Were you also trying to embarrass him? Did you need witnesses around in case he got mad back and tried to hit you? Were you trying to send a message to other women that he was your boyfriend and your personal property? Whatever the reasons, don't fight in public and you won't have any issues with security guards.
According to officials, white (now Hispanic) security guards tend to overreact 34.6% of the time when a white person simply raises his voice but they tend to overreact only 22.9% of the time when a black person simply raises his voice.
I wrote this thread just a couple weeks ago. Long story short, I was yelling at my boyfriend in a nightclub and next thing I know some security guy grabs me by my arm, pulls me away...and then starts literally shoving me towards the exit and then threatens me with an arrest and "You're gonna go to jail". All because I simply repeated (to my boyfriend), "YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DISRESPECT ME IN THIS CLUB!" I was trying to bring up a real issue some areas in this country is facing.
Really? Well I'll be damned
I was all the way out in Albuquerque, NM and happened to glance at the NY times at this article about police in Miami, my hometown. I bet in each case, the guy (the suspect) probably did nothing wrong except not say, "yes sir" to each of the interrogating and the cops over-reacted.
Unless you can post footage of the incident, it's hard to take sides in this matter. And since YOU have decided that this is a race issue, or maybe a black woman problem, I will say that the majority of times that I have seen black women get agitated and mad, they are particularly aggressive in their body language. Not only do they raise keep raising their voice level (as if by sheer loudness they can make their opinion right and the other side wrong), but they raise their forefinger and stick in in their opponent's face and then do the neck thing.
But based on your personal experiences, I really don't see how you can make your situation a race issue. But have you been in situations where you were fighting with your boyfriend and black security guards ignored the situation and looked the other way? If they did, then I would say that those black security guards were not doing their job. And if you fight with your boyfriend a lot in public, then stop doing that.
I believe that ANY woman or man of any race that is fighting in public in an emotional fashion with a loud voice and wild physical gestures is going to be restrained and removed by security personnel. Other people who aren't involved in the disagreement just don't want to see this sort of thing, let alone in a nightclub where they are trying to have a good time.
Why couldn't you wait to fight with your boyfriend in private? Were you also trying to embarrass him? Did you need witnesses around in case he got mad back and tried to hit you? Were you trying to send a message to other women that he was your boyfriend and your personal property? Whatever the reasons, don't fight in public and you won't have any issues with security guards.
Why are you assuming "woman".
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