Official Thread: Federal judge rules California ban on same-sex marriage unconstitutional. (McCain, declaration)
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This law is about sex. Pure and simple sex. The only minority difference between a homosexual and a heterosexual is sex and who the genders wish to have their sex.
Huh... I dunno... I've been married for over 8 years. I WISH my marriage was all about sex.
Unfortunately, most of the time it's about mundane and boring stuff like who is gonna take out the trash, did that bill from Consumers Energy get paid (crap, I need to take care of that LOL), and who is on hair-ball-cleanup patrol.
It's also about getting our taxes filed, rights of inheritance, and making sure the other is provided for once one of us dies. About his right to make medical decisions for me, and my right to be at his bedside when he is ill. It's about supporting each other through the crap life throws our way, and celebrating the joys, in whatever manner we deem appropriate for ourselves - not in a manner proscribed by Mrs. Grundy.
At most we spend 2 hours a day on the sex part (if we're lucky, if we're not exhausted by the mundane, if we're not sick, if we don't have to get up early, if the cats don't hork a hair ball, if the kids stay asleep, if the bills aren't weighing us down, if stress isn't joining us in bed)... and we can do THAT part of our relationship with or without that little license we paid the county for.
It's all the stuff we CAN'T do without that little license that really matters, that gays and lesbians are fighting for.
Except people would have told you that laws against interracial marriage were about sex too, the contamination of racial purity that would result from interracial marriage was seen as a moral issue, and I don't see how morals are detached from culture. Morals are not objective truths, they are cultural constructs.
Some people do not need a 'law' to tell them what is right and wrong. Apparently there are those that do. Have we all become daft.
Very true, for the vast majority of the whole 'tradition' of marriage women were property.
if you want to know what the bible says about marriage it says that men were to treat women with the utmost respect and to treat them like they would treat themselves not property and i am native american and we didnt have religion to tell us whats up, and women were highly regarded in our tribe
Why is a gay man ruling in a case about a Gay marriage ban any different than someone who is in an inter-racial relationship ruling in a case about an Inter-racial marriage ban??
wow pocahontas huh , whos the racist now?? hahahaha!! of course your against the bible because it is against gays and it clearly says it. and yeah you did choose to be gay its not proven you were born that way.
How is it proven that homosexuality is a choice? Why would people who live in countries where they execute gays just choose to risk their lives? Can you just decide to stop liking members of the opposite sex? If homosexuality is a choice then so is heterosexuality, and I've never met an individual who could control who they are attracted to.
Also, who cares what the Bible says? Christian morality has no place in the lives of non-believers.
of course he was biased! omg come on now this will help him too so of course he was gonna overturn it no matter what the people said. if this judge was a straight conservative all you would be screaming the same thing
Have you even looked at any of the transcripts of the case??
I guess women should never be judges on women's rights issue, minorities should never be the judge on a Civil Rights issue, we should have made sure no judges in the Loving V Virginia case ever had an interracial relationship, etc....
had the patient (prior togetting sick) taken care of the LEGALITY of the situation, the 'parents' would have had no say
And someone (can't quite remember who) posted a link to the story of two gay men who DID have all of the legal paperwork - wills, medical powers of attorney - and such and were STILL denied visitation to the point that the HEALTHY one was placed in a separate nursing home, denied the knowledge of where his partner was and had all of their possessions auctioned out from under them. You can have all the legal documents in the world and if someone wants to ignore them, they will. Legal documents don't mean a thing if no one bothers to even LOOK at them.
wow pocahontas huh , whos the racist now?? hahahaha!! of course your against the bible because it is against gays and it clearly says it. and yeah you did choose to be gay its not proven you were born that way.
I'm not gay, sweetie. Nor I am I a racist. You're the one who brought up the "indian princess" bit. I was merely being cute. Yes, one is born gay. I kinda doubt anyone would choose to be gay in an society with ignorant bigots such as yourself in the majority.
And no, I'm not against the Bible because it is against gays. I am against the Bible being used to define our laws and rights, when this country was clearly founded as a secular nation based on secular principles and reason with a total separation of church and state.
And of course, the Bible is an outdated man-made book of plagiarized fairytales
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