COVID 19 stats - ALLEGHENY COUNTY and beyond (average, comparing)

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by OyCrumbler

You really think that pretending you have some special knowledge of Carvana is arguable? It's not just Carmax--it's several other portals that have launched no contact sales and other services directly as a result of a pandemic. I don't think they'll release usage numbers for all of these anytime soon, but that multiple places are doing a swift rollout of this in reaction to the pandemic is pretty indicative of some kind of shift. Whether that'll be lasting past the pandemic is unknown, but at least there's an obvious additional effort to push these things out now that did not exist to the same extent prior to the pandemic. I'm just excited to see what new bull**** you come out with in response--is it that your other friend owns autotrader and that the internet's is misreporting about the rollout of these services?

I simply gave you the Carvana reference because it’s always been their model and have been doing it for years. They’ve also made it so easy to understand that a middle schooler can understand it.

Nope, he just owns a new car franchise that’s been doing it for years, much like most every other franchise and many used car dealers have done.

Again, prove me wrong and I’ll happily admit I am.

[OyCrumbler]

Originally Posted by erieguy

I simply gave you the Carvana reference because it’s always been their model and have been doing it for years. They’ve also made it so easy to understand that a middle schooler can understand it.

Nope, he just owns a new car franchise that’s been doing it for years, much like most every other franchise and many used car dealers have done.

Again, prove me wrong and I’ll happily admit I am.

Sure, who said that I was unfamiliar with Carvana? How is that equivalent to saying that no contact sales and test drives are a rarity? There's nothing contradictory there, but you keep on going "oh wow, do you even know how to use Carvana?" like your other silly and irrational digs like being wary of dealership practices somehow means that one is easily conned by dealerships or an uneducated buyer or stating disapproval of dodgy practices somehow lead to claims that makes someone sound like they have a poor credit rating. Or how about that little sojourn into arguing about dealership associations and dealers where you start with asking what lawsuits are being brought to stop direct sales and then somehow try to turn it into "oh no, it's not dealers, it's dealership associations!" and then try to make a nonsense distinction when you know good and well that there's an odd preponderance of dealership associations to be made up of dealerships. It's at least somewhat funny to see, so c'mon, Sergeant Pile, let's see how much taller you can stack that bull****.

Like I said, there's unlikely to be a survey covering this, at least not anytime soon. What you can see is that multiple portals have launched no contact services in the past few weeks which did not have these services before and they did so specifically in response to the pandemic. Now does that necessarily mean anyone is using these services? Anecdotally, yes, but you're probably not going to get publicly released hard data allowing for a comparison anytime soon.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by OyCrumbler

Sure, who said that I was unfamiliar with Carvana? How is that equivalent to saying that no contact sales and test drives are a rarity? There's nothing contradictory there, but you keep on going "oh wow, do you even know how to use Carvana?"

Like I said, there's unlikely to be a survey covering this, at least not anytime soon. What you can see is that multiple portals have launched no contact services in the past few weeks which did not have these services before and they did so specifically in response to the pandemic. Now does that necessarily mean anyone is using these services? Anecdotally, yes, but you're probably not going to get publicly released hard data allowing for a comparison anytime soon.

Because Carvana has been offering it for years.

Yep, never said there weren’t. They’ve been late to the game, and our original discussion has been new car dealerships which is what you starting crying about to begin with, because they hurt your feelings many years ago. However, they’ve been offering the services for years.

Sounds like a problem you’re going to have in proving your assumptions, but I greatly look forward to seeing them.

[OyCrumbler]

Originally Posted by erieguy

Because Carvana has been offering it for years.

Yep, never said there weren’t. They’ve been late to the game, and our original discussion has been new car dealerships which is what you starting crying about to begin with, because they hurt your feelings many years ago. However, they’ve been offering the services for years.

Sounds like a problem you’re going to have in proving your assumptions, but I greatly look forward to seeing them.

Who is saying that Carvana hasn't been offering it for years? C'mon, cough it up, who's saying that? You know what was said? That no contact sales and test drives were a rarity in the past. Is that equivalent to completely not existing? No. It is not.

Like I said, there's unlikely to be a survey covering this, at least not anytime soon. What you can see is that multiple portals have launched no contact services in the past few weeks which did not have these services before and they did so specifically in response to the pandemic. Now does that necessarily mean anyone is using these services? Anecdotally, yes, but you're probably not going to get publicly released hard data allowing for a comparison anytime soon.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by OyCrumbler

Who is saying that Carvana hasn't been offering it for years? C'mon, cough it up, who's saying that? You know what was said? That no contact sales and test drives were a rarity in the past. Is that equivalent to completely not existing? No. It is not.

Like I said, there's unlikely to be a survey covering this, at least not anytime soon. What you can see is that multiple portals have launched no contact services in the past few weeks which did not have these services before and they did so specifically in response to the pandemic. Now does that necessarily mean anyone is using these services? Anecdotally, yes, but you're probably not going to get publicly released hard data allowing for a comparison anytime soon.

I simply mentioned Carvana because they’ve been doing Exactly what we’re talking about for years and their process is simple to understand, which is obviously needed for you.

Again, that’s a problem you’ll have to overcome to prove me wrong, but I certainly look forward to it.

[OyCrumbler]

Originally Posted by erieguy

I simply mentioned Carvana because they’ve been doing Exactly what we’re talking about for years and their process is simple to understand, which is obviously needed for you.

Again, that’s a problem you’ll have to overcome to prove me wrong, but I certainly look forward to it.

Another silly dig from you. Again, still not addressing what was said.

Who is saying that Carvana hasn't been offering it for years? C'mon, cough it up, who's saying that? You know what was said? That no contact sales and test drives were a rarity in the past. Is that equivalent to completely not existing? No. It is not.

Like I said, there's unlikely to be a survey covering this, at least not anytime soon. What you can see is that multiple portals have launched no contact services in the past few weeks which did not have these services before and they did so specifically in response to the pandemic. Now does that necessarily mean anyone is using these services? Anecdotally, yes, but you're probably not going to get publicly released hard data allowing for a comparison anytime soon.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by OyCrumbler

Another silly dig from you. Again, still not addressing what was said.

Who is saying that Carvana hasn't been offering it for years? C'mon, cough it up, who's saying that? You know what was said? That no contact sales and test drives were a rarity in the past. Is that equivalent to completely not existing? No. It is not.

Like I said, there's unlikely to be a survey covering this, at least not anytime soon. What you can see is that multiple portals have launched no contact services in the past few weeks which did not have these services before and they did so specifically in response to the pandemic. Now does that necessarily mean anyone is using these services? Anecdotally, yes, but you're probably not going to get publicly released hard data allowing for a comparison anytime soon.

I addressed everything. I’m just waiting for you to prove me wrong.

Since that’s been Carvana’s model, it’s definitely not rare for them and most everyone else.

Like I said, it’s a problem you’re going to have in proving your assumptions, but I greatly look forward to seeing you do it.

[OyCrumbler]

Originally Posted by erieguy

I addressed everything. I’m just waiting for you to prove me wrong.

Since that’s been Carvana’s model, it’s definitely not rare for them and most everyone else.

Like I said, it’s a problem you’re going to have in proving your assumptions, but I greatly look forward to seeing you do it.

That's funny--these multiple portals that have just rolled out no contact services in the past few weeks in response to the pandemic seem to point otherwise. If those no contact services didn't even exist for several of these portals beforehand, then it's pretty likely that those services weren't being used for those portals. I don't know how you want to argue otherwise, but go ahead. And just in case you go on the same jag again about Carvana: Who is saying that Carvana hasn't been offering it for years? C'mon, cough it up, who's saying that? You know what was said? That no contact sales and test drives were a rarity in the past. Is that equivalent to completely not existing? No. It is not.

Like I said, there's unlikely to be a survey covering this, at least not anytime soon. What you can see is that multiple portals have launched no contact services in the past few weeks which did not have these services before and they did so specifically in response to the pandemic. Now does that necessarily mean anyone is using these services? Anecdotally, yes, but you're probably not going to get publicly released hard data allowing for a comparison anytime soon.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by OyCrumbler

That's funny--these multiple portals that have just rolled out no contact services in the past few weeks in response to the pandemic seem to point otherwise. If those no contact services didn't even exist for several of these portals beforehand, then it's pretty likely that those services weren't being used for those portals. I don't know how you want to argue otherwise, but go ahead.

Like I said, there's unlikely to be a survey covering this, at least not anytime soon. What you can see is that multiple portals have launched no contact services in the past few weeks which did not have these services before and they did so specifically in response to the pandemic. Now does that necessarily mean anyone is using these services? Anecdotally, yes, but you're probably not going to get publicly released hard data allowing for a comparison anytime soon.

How many portals have just set this up compared to the 1000’s of dealerships that have been doing it for years?

Pretty simple. Desperation to compete against others who have been offering the services for many years.

How do they point otherwise to most new franchise and used car dealers offering this for many years?

Like I said, that’s a problem you’re going to have in proving your assumptions, but I greatly look forward to you proving me wrong.

[szug-bot]

May 9: new infections per day, from last 17 days, starting with most distant:


61, 28, 21, 13, 13, 11, 38, 16, 30, 14, 12, 20, 10, 19, 45, 16, 31



c'mon, people.