If Phoenix is that hot, why do so many move there? (Sedona: universities, legal)

[BIG CATS]

Originally Posted by diazjulianms

OMG Y'ALL ARE JUST TOO OVER EXAGGERATED. How about me, living in 75-93 degrees and 60%-100% humidity year-round. Does it stop me to do all kind of sports? Does it stop me to walk outside? Does it stop me to do some hunting in a remote paddy field with very high humidity and make you sweat like hell not just in day also in night! Does it stop me to go to beach? No, no, no and no. I mean you all have to thankful that you still have winter whether in some place get mild to warm and others get cold and snowy. You should be thankful and use your summer day to outdoor activities whether its hot and humid or very hot and dry or just warm humid. Even if you live in some continental areas i bet you have some outdoor activities. So just be thankful and not criticised about it while others could get even far worser. I'm not mad I'm just sayin

Our temps are deadly, and with the lack of humidity, we dehydrate much, much quicker than where you're from. I used to hike 10 miles in IL and hardly drink any water. 10 miles here and I can easily consume 96oz (and not have to pee afterwards because it evaporates right out of you). Our heat kills many people each and every year. Does yours?

[AZ_Rookie]

Originally Posted by diazjulianms

OMG Y'ALL ARE JUST TOO OVER EXAGGERATED. How about me, living in 75-93 degrees and 60%-100% humidity year-round. Does it stop me to do all kind of sports? Does it stop me to walk outside? Does it stop me to do some hunting in a remote paddy field with very high humidity and make you sweat like hell not just in day also in night! Does it stop me to go to beach? No, no, no and no. I mean you all have to thankful that you still have winter whether in some place get mild to warm and others get cold and snowy. You should be thankful and use your summer day to outdoor activities whether its hot and humid or very hot and dry or just warm humid. Even if you live in some continental areas i bet you have some outdoor activities. So just be thankful and not criticised about it while others could get even far worser. I'm not mad I'm just sayin

Many on this forum embellish a lot of stuff... It's more an Internet thing than a Phoenix thing. In fact, from what I've seen - this forum doesn't reflect the reality of Phoenix very well at all.

*cue the whining...

[ScottsdaleMark]

Look, people forget this because they live in air conditioned comfort and never have to be outside for more than a few minutes at a time if it's really hot out ... but this is an extremely dangerous place to live in the summer if you get stranded out in the desert. Think of all the hikers in the middle of the city who need to be helicoptered off of some mountain, think of all the illegal immigrants who die crossing the desert, think of people on hikes or driving in remote desert who break down and die out there because their water is insufficient or runs out.

People who live in Alaska or parts of Canada seem to understand the deadliness of their climate in the winter and they take appropriate precautions when they go outside and they keep supplies in their cars just in case they break down and they bring sat phones when they go out hunting, etc., in remote areas; but for some reason there are a lot of people in Arizona who never really think about the possibility of being stranded out in the heat. I guess they just figure they can always call 911 or walk to a Circle K and buy a beverage. Maybe a lot of people never really leave the metro area and therefore just don't ever think about what they'd do if there was no AC or water available.

Modern civilization makes survival a lot easier for even the completely unprepared, but the desert is just as deadly as it's ever been once you take away all those modern conveniences.

[sexxxcblac]

Thank goodness for casinos and Walmart to cool us off.

[locolife]

Originally Posted by BIG CATS

Our temps are deadly, and with the lack of humidity, we dehydrate much, much quicker than where you're from. I used to hike 10 miles in IL and hardly drink any water. 10 miles here and I can easily consume 96oz (and not have to pee afterwards because it evaporates right out of you). Our heat kills many people each and every year. Does yours?

AZ hiking is also a lot more challenging then relatively flat IL, so chances are even at the same temperature you're working a lot harder here.

We don't have a ton of weather related deaths here, the SouthEast seems to dominate this area. Most folks are smart enough to know when to go out and how to take proper precautions against the hot weather. There's always exceptions but I find our weather to be very easy to live with.

[locolife]

Originally Posted by AZ_Rookie

Many on this forum embellish a lot of stuff... It's more an Internet thing than a Phoenix thing. In fact, from what I've seen - this forum doesn't reflect the reality of Phoenix very well at all.

*cue the whining...

THIS is very ACCURATE!

[ScottsdaleMark]

Originally Posted by locolife

AZ hiking is also a lot more challenging then relatively flat IL, so chances are even at the same temperature you're working a lot harder here.

We don't have a ton of weather related deaths here, the SouthEast seems to dominate this area. Most folks are smart enough to know when to go out and how to take proper precautions against the hot weather. There's always exceptions but I find our weather to be very easy to live with.

Yes and no, if you are not on a trail in forested parts of Illinois, it can be slow going fighting through the downed tree limbs, density of underbrush, hills, ditches, creeks and streams, etc. So please keep that in mind. It can be a real, soggy-booted, cut-skin, exhausting pain in the rear end depending where you're trying to pass.

Normally you can try to wend your way around the hard stuff but sometimes there's no easy way around and they have a lot more "water hazards" than we do.

There are lots of challenging hikes here, but also lots of bunny hikes in Arizona, too, e.g. a lot of the metro Phoenix "day hikes" that are basically uphill and then downhill walks along a trail, you know what I mean?

[DougStark]

This OP's question is a bit silly because I doubt he/she would ever say, "If Minneapolis is so terribly cold, why do people move there?" Even more extreme, "If Toronto is so terribly cold, why do people move there?"

Of course Phoenix is not a "paradise climate" like San Diego, but the "pleasant" months here make the area a relatively pleasant climate overall, IMO. Phoenix isn't growing ONLY due to its climate; there are many other things in play, including: proximity to the West coast huge mega economy/market; proximity to the Mexican market/industries; ample recreational opportunities; agricultural operations that have been here for centuries. I'm missing many, many, of course. Please pipe-in.

Almost forgot: A lot of seniors can't tolerate cold climates- their arthritis kills them with pain. I'm starting to relate more and more to this dilemma as I get older.

[Colt AZ]

Originally Posted by DougStark

This OP's question is a bit silly because I doubt he/she would ever say, "If Minneapolis is so terribly cold, why do people move there?" Even more extreme, "If Toronto is so terribly cold, why do people move there?"

Very true. I doubt if any place on earth is absolutely ideal. There will always be something which a percentage of people will find annoying enough to complain about: weather, traffic, critters, crime, housing, jobs, sports, economy, utility prices, food prices, pizza , other people, etc...

We even have people who rarely come here to post, unless they're ready to complain about another person's recent post!

Complainers we will always have with us.

[locolife]

Originally Posted by ScottsdaleMark

Yes and no, if you are not on a trail in forested parts of Illinois, it can be slow going fighting through the downed tree limbs, density of underbrush, hills, ditches, creeks and streams, etc. So please keep that in mind. It can be a real, soggy-booted, cut-skin, exhausting pain in the rear end depending where you're trying to pass.

Normally you can try to wend your way around the hard stuff but sometimes there's no easy way around and they have a lot more "water hazards" than we do.

There are lots of challenging hikes here, but also lots of bunny hikes in Arizona, too, e.g. a lot of the metro Phoenix "day hikes" that are basically uphill and then downhill walks along a trail, you know what I mean?

I do know what you mean but I find out average trails to be much more difficult then those I've ran across in the Midwest, unless you're seeking a bunny hill hike or mountain bike ride like Papago or the lower trails at south mountain. The type of trails you described sounds like something that's either been abaondoned or is in serious need of adoption, I lived out east for many years and put in time building bridges, drainage, and sawing down trees. Most people are not hiking through ditches, creeks, downed trees and raw stream crossings, they're usually on fairly well maintained trails. Unless you're competing in an obstacle course, then bring on all of that!