Philadelphia 2035 (Reading, Washington, Lincoln: litigation, cafe, fruit)

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by Pine to Vine

We'll see. SEPTA is not particularly well-funded by Harrisburg. I'm not sure it's particularly "low hanging fruit" to install functional countdown timers at every subway station. I think they have their priorities straight by getting the key cards working as well as focusing on the City Hall station, the busiest of the system (though admittedly, that effort is proceeding at a glacial pace). I find myself less frustrated when I set my bar for SEPTA lower than their announced intentions.

You people have no idea what it was like when transit was a cludge of separate systems.

[Lenses & Lights.]

In West Philly, a Jewelers Row-style preservation debacle on a neighborhood scale

[2e1m5a]

Originally Posted by Pine to Vine

The article says countdown timers will be installed at all subway stops by next year.

That would be nice-DC has this and it seems to be pretty accurate.

[thedirtypirate]

Originally Posted by Lenses & Lights.

In West Philly, a Jewelers Row-style preservation debacle on a neighborhood scale

The problem with those super beautiful old homes is how expensive it would have been to give it a proper rehab. Not that these shouldn't have been saved some other way, but these houses are old and who knows what the structure was still like.

Anyone have a biz journal account?

Chinatown Tower news: https://www.bizjournals.com/philadel...atown-cre.html

2 new businesses in 1500 spring garden: https://www.bizjournals.com/philadel...nai-mertz.html

Biz journal has a bunch of new articles but they are all locked... looks like 500 new retail jobs in the burbs, handful of startups secured funding.

[Pine to Vine]

Originally Posted by kyb01

You people have no idea what it was like when transit was a cludge of separate systems.

Who are "you people" and why are we wrong?

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by Pine to Vine

Who are "you people" and why are we wrong?

"You people" means most regular posters who were not in or around Philly before Septa existed. That is before local transit was regionally consolidated to create Septa. That is when Red Arrow existed, the Philadelphia & Western Co existed, and when the PTC existed. Also how many know personally what regional rail was like before the commuter tunnel or when the Reading Railroad and PRR(or later Conrail) ran them? I remember all of this.

Transit was a hodge-podge, messy and inconvenient. Inspite of still needing many improvements and better funding, for me Septa is "paradise" compared to how things used to be.

[PHL10]

Originally Posted by kyb01

Also how many know personally what regional rail was like before the commuter tunnel or when the Reading Railroad and PRR(or later Conrail) ran them? I remember all of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPDgwxLp8AM

[Pine to Vine]

Originally Posted by kyb01

"You people" means most regular posters who were not in or around Philly before Septa existed. That is before local transit was regionally consolidated to create Septa. That is when Red Arrow existed, the Philadelphia & Western Co existed, and when the PTC existed. Also how many know personally what regional rail was like before the commuter tunnel or when the Reading Railroad and PRR(or later Conrail) ran them? I remember all of this.

Transit was a hodge-podge, messy and inconvenient. Inspite of still needing many improvements and better funding, for me Septa is "paradise" compared to how things used to be.

Just because things are better than they used to be doesn't mean they are good. I've traveled around the world and ridden in mass transit in much smaller cities such as Budapest and Copenhagen with much cleaner and more efficient service than we have here. I don't see why it requires a birthright citizenship to have license to comment on aspects of life in a city we've happily elected to call home. Just as transplants can learn a lot from long term residents, newcomers know a few things locals don't.

Also: I also don't refer to lifetime residents as "you people," just for the record.

[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by kyb01

"You people" means most regular posters who were not in or around Philly before Septa existed. That is before local transit was regionally consolidated to create Septa. That is when Red Arrow existed, the Philadelphia & Western Co existed, and when the PTC existed. Also how many know personally what regional rail was like before the commuter tunnel or when the Reading Railroad and PRR(or later Conrail) ran them? I remember all of this.

Transit was a hodge-podge, messy and inconvenient. Inspite of still needing many improvements and better funding, for me Septa is "paradise" compared to how things used to be.

I remember PTC. I used to ride Red Arrow, before PATCO opened for business.

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by Pine to Vine

Just because things are better than they used to be doesn't mean they are good. I've traveled around the world and ridden in mass transit in much smaller cities such as Budapest and Copenhagen with much cleaner and more efficient service than we have here. I don't see why it requires a birthright citizenship to have license to comment on aspects of life in a city we've happily elected to call home. Just as transplants can learn a lot from long term residents, newcomers know a few things locals don't.

Also: I also don't refer to lifetime residents as "you people," just for the record.

Look, I was just pointing out how things were different way back when.