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Old 02-07-2009, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Right where I want to be.
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Are you now suggesting that no one under 30 is mature??


I think we all have heard plenty of your opinion on the matter. Do you have anything else to add or is that going to be it??
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Old 02-07-2009, 08:46 PM
 
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I am so sorry about your husband! What shock you must have been in!

Your story is very inspirational and I wish more people could live the way you have!

Give your daughter my best...I know she must be proud! Good job
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Nice post!

My story differs a bit in that my DH died 4 mo. after our daughter was born and I opted not to go on to grad school (he was working on his PhD at the time).

One can never really know what life will bring.

Do I regret bringing my daughter into this world? Absolutely not!!!

I was suddenly a "young single mother".

I've had to fight stereotypes my whole life (probably why this thread rankles me a bit?).

I'm young-ish, but not as young as I appear (thus the funny "being carded" story).

I'm a single mother, but never divorced.

I've never been on welfare. In fact, when the market was good, there were times when we were quite flush.

As far as kids of young, single mothers not amounting to much? SSSShhh don't tell my daughter. She's too busy working on her PhD.......
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Old 02-07-2009, 08:52 PM
 
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Nice post!

My story differs a bit in that my DH died 4 mo. after our daughter was born and I opted not to go on to grad school (he was working on his PhD at the time).

One can never really know what life will bring.

Do I regret bringing my daughter into this world? Absolutely not!!!

I was suddenly a "young single mother".

I've had to fight stereotypes my whole life (probably why this thread rankles me a bit?).

I'm young-ish, but not as young as I appear (thus the funny "being carded" story).

I'm a single mother, but never divorced.

I've never been on welfare. In fact, when the market was good, there were times when we were quite flush.

As far as kids of young, single mothers not amounting to much? SSSShhh don't tell my daughter. She's too busy working on her PhD.......
Wanted to rep you but I must spread zee love. So sorry about your loss, but congrats on a job well done.
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Old 02-07-2009, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, Fl
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Can you, honestly, say it wouldn't have been better if you'd waited?

When you have a choice to make, you choose the lesser of the evils. Young, immature, financially unstable, more likely to divorce parents are better than death.
You don't know how old we were, what our financial situation was, what our maturity level was, or what the state of our marriage was. But you can judge whether or not we should have waited?

Life happened, and we dealt with it, like many couples do.
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Old 02-07-2009, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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You don't know how old we were, what our financial situation was, what our maturity level was, or what the state of our marriage was. But you can judge whether or not we should have waited?

Life happened, and we dealt with it, like many couples do.
Statistically speaking, until you've been married several years, your risk of divorce is high. Divorce hurts kids. I can say waiting has better odds for kids.

I'm glad your children didn't end up put through a divorce. Too many are.
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Old 02-07-2009, 09:01 PM
 
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Ivory, it's been an interesting debate. Time for me to go to bed.
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Old 02-07-2009, 09:19 PM
 
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I don't know why some people bring in the "Fact" that your brain doesn't mature until you are 25yrs old. Therefore if you have children before you really are an idiot. I have met many 40 yr olds who behave WORSE than me. They behave in ways that I never WILL. And they have children. Its kind of gross that such disgusting people hace children.
It is a "fact" that the prefrontal cortex of the brain does not reach maturation until mid-twenties. The prefrontal cortex ..

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The most typical psychological term for functions carried out by the pre-frontal cortex area is executive function. Executive function relates to abilities to differentiate among conflicting thoughts, determine good and bad, better and best, same and different, future consequences of current activities, working toward a defined goal, prediction of outcomes, expectation based on actions, and social "control" (the ability to suppress urges that, if not suppressed, could lead to socially-unacceptable outcomes).
cite: Prefrontal cortex - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Nobody said anything about anyone having a child under 25 is an idiot and nobody said anything about hating children. All we are saying is that a young parent may regret their decision later on in life for having a child because their brain is not fully cooked.
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Old 02-07-2009, 10:06 PM
 
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Nobody said anything about anyone having a child under 25 is an idiot and nobody said anything about hating children. All we are saying is that a young parent may regret their decision later on in life for having a child because their brain is not fully cooked.
I'm not sure we should pay any attention to your opinion on the matter. You're only 21 so your brain is not fully cooked yet. Come back in 4-5 years and we'll see how you're doing.
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Old 02-07-2009, 10:14 PM
 
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I'm not sure we should pay any attention to your opinion on the matter.
Yea, to hell with scientific fact backed by research. Complete hogwash if you ask me.

what total b.s!!!
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The frontal lobe reaches full maturity around age 25, marking the cognitive maturity associated with adulthood. Arthur Toga, UCLA, found increased myelin in the frontal lobe white matter of young adults compared to that of teens
Frontal lobe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nobody grows after 18! It's just not possible!

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Old 02-07-2009, 10:22 PM
 
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Yea, to hell with scientific fact backed by research. Complete hogwash if you ask me.
Nit, you have to admit, NCyank made an excellent point in a pretty artful way. By your own logic, we should dismiss you as not ready for prime time.

Sure you're not as mature at 20 as you are at 25 -- and I've heard and wholeheartedly accept the fact that the human brain doesn't reach full maturity until it's 25. In fact. that fact rings true with my own life. Still, at 18, I didn't think I was mature enough to have kids. Now, at 32, with my fully mature adult brain, I think I actually was... so with my defective half cooked brain, I decided to wait for a bit to have kids, but now with my mature, adult brain .. I think .. nah, there was no point in waiting. So, what do you make of that?
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