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Old 09-25-2019, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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Construction begins on city deck / Westin Greensboro downtown. The contract between the hotel developer and city was signed September 23. The 6 story Westin Hotel will sit on top of the 6 story city parking deck. (12 stories)

The parking deck will be built by Elm Street Hotel LLC at a cost to the city of $25.8 million. Parrish said that the completion date would be in early 2021 and after it is completed the city would own and operate the parking deck.

http://www.rhinotimes.com/featured-a...ction-started/


 
Old 09-25-2019, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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RDU ranks 5th in customer satisfaction among "large" airports. I don't consider John Wayne/ Orange County, CA to be large.

14 million O&D travelers this year at RDU.

Charlotte Douglas ranks 10th among mega airports (32 million passengers and up).

I wonder what its O&D numbers are this year, probably similar to RDU, maybe slightly higher.

https://www.wraltechwire.com/2019/09...in-new-survey/

Last edited by architect77; 09-25-2019 at 06:19 PM..
 
Old 09-25-2019, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Originally Posted by gsoboi78 View Post
I think Raleigh is the only major city in NC that has height limits downtown which is why you don't see developers building 45, 50 or 60 story buildings. They do need to relax that.
I don't think anyone except Raleigh's prolific developer, John Kane, has ever wanted/proposed to build anything taller than 31 floors in downtown Raleigh

Except for the 40 story Perkins+Will designed Soleil Center at Crabtree that fell through.

And I think the height limits that stepped up to Fayetteville St.' 40 floor max were part of a vision plan for downtown drawn up in the last 15 years or so.

I still believe that there is a conscious or subconscious reluctance by all Raleighites to change the scale of what the city has always been.

They have always liked the small-scale atmosphere and local feel.

People lament what's happened to Cameron Village with the new bulky apartment complexes. They wanted it to remain a 1 or 2 level strip shopping center that supposedly was the first of its kind in the Southeast.

But with the Influx of NY/NJ/MA and Long Islanders now outnumbering the natives, who knows if their desires will be the same?
 
Old 09-25-2019, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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That's a fair statement. I just thought it was funny to imagine that most recent project with a dome on it.
I have always thought that a modern take on a dome would be perfect for the Capital City.

Especially since the Capitol building itself is dinky in size compared to all others in the country. San Francisco's City Hall looks 10 times bigger.

This is what I've always envisioned: a dome that's stepped up in a modern way on top of a stocky, wide, 30-40 building downtown, with perhaps a shorter, stubbier adjacent building with a plainer top: This is on Blue Ridge Road in Raleigh by Wade Ave interchange:

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8017...7i13312!8i6656

That dome in Winston is another tasteful legacy of the late Argentinean architect Cesar Pelli who gave Charlotte its crown and gave the world the Petronas Towers. He was on my flight departing Miami about 15 years ago.

I like his work because it stands the test of time and won[t ever be an eyesore. His building has nice proportions that usually incorporate the Golden Section ~60-40 ratio which is found in all living things from seashells to our own bodies.

The BofA towers' first setback is about at the 60% mark of the total height. The architectural community originally derided the BofA tower's design as "wedding cake" and too safe, but I disagree, and think it has an elegance similar to the Empire State building (especially the thin, East and West elevations).
 
Old 09-25-2019, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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400 Bellemeade in Greensboro, aka Project Slugger office tower going up nicely

 
Old 09-25-2019, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Originally Posted by architect77 View Post
I don't think anyone except Raleigh's prolific developer, John Kane, has ever wanted/proposed to build anything taller than 31 floors in downtown Raleigh

Except for the 40 story Perkins+Will designed Soleil Center at Crabtree that fell through.

And I think the height limits that stepped up to Fayetteville St.' 40 floor max were part of a vision plan for downtown drawn up in the last 15 years or so.

I still believe that there is a conscious or subconscious reluctance by all Raleighites to change the scale of what the city has always been.

They have always liked the small-scale atmosphere and local feel.

People lament what's happened to Cameron Village with the new bulky apartment complexes. They wanted it to remain a 1 or 2 level strip shopping center that supposedly was the first of its kind in the Southeast.

But with the Influx of NY/NJ/MA and Long Islanders now outnumbering the natives, who knows if their desires will be the same?
Whhhhaaaaaaattttttt.....
 
Old 09-25-2019, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Originally Posted by architect77 View Post
RDU ranks 5th in customer satisfaction among "large" airports. I don't consider John Wayne/ Orange County, CA to be large.

14 million O&D travelers this year at RDU.

Charlotte Douglas ranks 10th among mega airports (32 million passengers and up).

I wonder what its O&D numbers are this year, probably similar to RDU, maybe slightly higher.

https://www.wraltechwire.com/2019/09...in-new-survey/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...s-a321xrl/amp/

Forbes article says 2018 CLT had 42 Million total passengers, 13 of which are local.

2018 RDU had 12.8 million total passengers

https://www.rdu.com/airport-authority/statistics/

Don’t know the O&D numbers considering there’s connections have “skyrocketed” at RDU. https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle...-looks-to.html

Too bad the article is behind a paywall
 
Old 09-26-2019, 03:42 AM
 
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From what I found, in 2018 CLT was 12.5 million domestic O&D passengers. RDU was at 10.6 million.

https://www.aviationplanning.com/wp-...fic-Review.pdf
 
Old 09-26-2019, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Destination CLT encompasses the first phase of our Master Plan Update, a collaborative effort with our airline partners and the FAA. It represents a $2.5-3.1 billion capital investment in capacity enhancement projects.

Over the last 20 years, the presence and growth of Charlotte Douglas International Airport (CLT) and its airline hub has resulted in CLT becoming not only one of the busiest airports in the U.S., but in the entire world. With a forward-thinking philosophy, and a focus on constant growth, CLT sees itself as an Airport of the future. Charlotte Douglas International Airport is one of the nation’s busiest airports. Our growth has been remarkable, over the several years especially, increasing from 28 million total passengers in 2005, to 46,444,380 million total passengers in 2018.

https://www.cltairport.com/newsroom/destination-clt
 
Old 09-26-2019, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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From what I found, in 2018 CLT was 12.5 million domestic O&D passengers. RDU was at 10.6 million.

https://www.aviationplanning.com/wp-...fic-Review.pdf
It can be assumed that all RDU passengers are O&D since there's no hub anymore (formerly American and Midway had "mini" hubs).

So this year RDU will have 14 million O&D travelers.

Keep in mind though that people from all over Eastern NC are departing/arriving at RDU. The many smaller airports are pretty expensive for leisure travelers.

CLT has guaranteed it's survival by having the lowest operational costs of any major airport in the country.

If it can pull off affording nice renovations too, then that's a winner.

Please lose the rocking chairs, I don't care how famous they are, they are kuntry.
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