North Carolina development thread. (Charlotte, Raleigh: places to eat, natural gas, Japanese)
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Charlotte will not have multiple skylines like Atlanta. Raleigh probably will with “midtown.” If midtown doesn’t already have south park beat, it will and the Gap will widen. South Park can only build in the remaining parking lots and is hemmed in my historical neighborhoods with no interstate access.
Charlotte will definitely have multiple skylines, but they won't be arranged like Atlanta's. SouthEnd is already sprouting its own skyline and I can easily see University and Ballantyne having their own true skylines. I wouldn't be surprised to see Northlake with one also, not to mention Fort Mill right across the border.
Charlotte will definitely have multiple skylines, but they won't be arranged like Atlanta's. SouthEnd is already sprouting its own skyline and I can easily see University and Ballantyne having their own true skylines. I wouldn't be surprised to see Northlake with one also, not to mention Fort Mill right across the border.
I don’t really see SouthEnd as ever being a separate skyline. Just an extension of uptown. It’s much more integrated than the western part of uptown is to the high rise portion. Train tracks cut all that off. The bridges over 277 are more ped. Friendly, integrated, etc.
I see Ballantyne as having a few tall buildings. An office park with a few tall buildings sprinkled throughout. But I think high rise development will mostly be either immediately uptown, or immediately adjacent. And that’s about it.
I don’t even see Ballantyne getting Reston style development. The bones aren’t there to be anything but the traditional 90’s/2000’s era dev. It’ll just be a disappointing, but prettier and better landscaped, mini version of Tyson’s at very best.
If Southpark had interstate access or highway access and wasn’t hemmed in by established, higher income ‘hoods. It would’ve been a legit skyline and CLT would look very different.
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I don’t really see SouthEnd as ever being a separate skyline. Just an extension of uptown. It’s much more integrated than the western part of uptown is to the high rise portion. Train tracks cut all that off. The bridges over 277 are more ped. Friendly, integrated, etc.
An extension of Uptown to be sure, but still distinct enough to be its own thing. Anything is possible, but I don't see SouthEnd getting the signature towers that define Uptown like BOA Corporate Center, DEC, Legacy Union, etc. Its skyline will have its own aesthetic as a shorter, more linear "tail" in relation to Uptown.
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I see Ballantyne as having a few tall buildings. An office park with a few tall buildings sprinkled throughout. But I think high rise development will mostly be either immediately uptown, or immediately adjacent. And that’s about it.
I don’t even see Ballantyne getting Reston style development. The bones aren’t there to be anything but the traditional 90’s/2000’s era dev. It’ll just be a disappointing, but prettier and better landscaped, mini version of Tyson’s at very best.
I can easily see Ballantyne as Charlotte's version of Cumberland in Atlanta. Not a particularly tall skyline (and no MLB stadium), but definitely noticeable height that's visible in the distance on I-485.
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If Southpark had interstate access or highway access and wasn’t hemmed in by established, higher income ‘hoods. It would’ve been a legit skyline and CLT would look very different.
With that I agree. If light rail ever gets out that way, it could still happen but not to the extent of, say, Buckhead.
An extension of Uptown to be sure, but still distinct enough to be its own thing. Anything is possible, but I don't see SouthEnd getting the signature towers that define Uptown like BOA Corporate Center, DEC, Legacy Union, etc. Its skyline will have its own aesthetic as a shorter, more linear "tail" in relation to Uptown.
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True. I don’t see signature towers. I mean. I guess technically there is the Lowe’s tower but Charlotte has such a tall skyline with multiple signature towers (the new Duke, New BofA Tower, BofA Corp., Wells Fargo jukebox, Hearst Tower), I don’t see anything competing with those in SouthEnd. A 25 floor office Tower here and there.
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I can easily see Ballantyne as Charlotte's version of Cumberland in Atlanta. Not a particularly tall skyline (and no MLB stadium), but definitely noticeable height that's visible in the distance on I-485.
Not familiar with Cumberland, but a quick google search I could see it.
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With that I agree. If light rail ever gets out that way, it could still happen but not to the extent of, say, Buckhead
Light rail to South Park is probably a solid 50+ years away at best.
There’s sooo much development opportunities uptown. Including where the new stadium is where there’s just acres of undeveloped fields. Blank fields. The city wants that to be an entertainment district and have that portion of uptown (gateway) integrated into the rest of uptown.
Then you have the rest of the north tryon portion of 1st wars which has so much potential, and 2nd Ward. Uptown has so, so, so, so much room for development opportunities still. I think the city is going to try and focus the resources to be uptown centric with major developments and business centers (copies of Ballantyne) strategically on the outer ring of the city, at the end of planned transit corridors.
Charlotte many decades ago made a plan based on some transit corridors (which doesn’t just mean rail. But all forms of transportation ) that is still part of the long term vision.
^ from the city of Huntersville.
Basically. The plan since like. The 70’s has been to plan for a strong employment core uptown, and smaller employment/residential hubs ringing 485, all connected to uptown, along transit corridors. Charlotte has been very strategic in controlling the growth. I’m surprised how long they hold on to valuable land. The city will city will sit on land for decades before they even toy with the idea of selling it to developers with strings attached. From huge, huge swaths of empty forest to random plots of land in uptown, etc.
Charlotte will not have multiple skylines like Atlanta. Raleigh probably will with “midtown.” If midtown doesn’t already have south park beat, it will and the Gap will widen. South Park can only build in the remaining parking lots and is hemmed in my historical neighborhoods with no interstate access.
I’d really like to hear why you think that compared with other cities in the state.
Winston Salem.
Greeensboro.
Asheville.
Durham.
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