Thoughts on Bayside, Queens? (New York, York: condos, safe area, construction)
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Hey, I'm thinking about moving to Bayside, Queens. I'm a 23 year old guy working in Westbury, LI. I chose Bayside because it's 20 minutes to work, and 20 minutes to Penn Station via the LIRR. Plus I hear Bell Blvd has lots of stores, bars, and restaurants. I'm deciding between an apartment on 36th and Bell or an apartment south of the LIRR near Northern Blvd. The prices are more than I expected ($1295 for a studio), but less than Manhattan. So is Bayside a fun, safe, convenient place to live? I know there's no subway, but I hear you can take a bus to Flushing-Main Street and catch the 7 train. I also hear the parks are large and nice. What do you think about living in Bayside? Does it have a NYC feel without the inner-city problems?
Second only to Forest Hills, Bayside is the major Bukharian Jewish nabe in NYC. If you're a Bukharian Jew, you'll feel very comfortable.
If not, then you're gonna be pretty lonely. Queens as a whole has a really residential feel. As un-NYC as you're going to get. Bayside is clean, safe and really, really boring. There's nothing going on and you need a car to get anywhere. There's not even a proper subway in Bayside -- just the LIRR, which is great and takes you right to midtown in like 15 minutes, but can get pricey.
All in all, living in Bayside is nice! But it's basically living in the 'burbs. If you're moving with a family and looking to rent a house, it might be right for you.
One of the reasons for the downfall of a nice area like Bayside is the naive and politically correct attitudes of some of the people here who are quick to cry anytime someone offers a contrary view to their embarrassingly rosy view of the world.
I don't care what nationality it is that ruins the neighborhood (Italian, Jewish, Chines, Hispanic, Korean, etc.) It is not xenophobia, it is reality.
These are the facts: the same developers who bought up and destroyed Flushing, Corona and Jackson Heights are now targeting Bayside and surrounding areas. These are greedy DEVELOPERS who will knock down one and two family homes with nice yards, and overdevelop by building 10-12 family MUDS with no yards or lawns.
Then they rent to illegal (usually Asian) immigrants to make a quick profit and leave. The area they leave behind is not family-friendly anymore. These are not "well-to-do" families with kids who happen to be Asian moving in. Those folks are welcome anytime in Bayside.
However, the area then gets overrun with a lousy quality of life because of the illegal immigrants stuffed into illegally subdivided basements (who don't pay income or property taxes). Parking becomes impossible. The area becomes overdense. Housing values are negatively affected. Crime goes up. Schools get overcrowded. Half the storefront churches they open are fronts for illegal loan activity.
That is fact.
Last edited by Viralmd; 07-23-2008 at 02:30 PM..
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If you mean by "exclusive" construction company bosses or owners with a high school diploma, or white collar employeers with no higher educatioin, then Bayside is your place LOL!
Now, however, in recent years, we homeowners here have watched the arrival of people who not only went to college but who went to top schools. They are the newcomers here in my neighborhood, but the oldsters are generally retired or aging blue collar business owners or restaurant owners, etc. Usually ,they are people like you who have prejudices. They are usually the xenophobes. My newer neighbors are gay couples with kids, Ivy educated lawyers, etc. They are people of color with Chinese, Caribbean and Jewish and Irish-American and they are fun and well informed. They actually know what is happening in the world and deplore the anti-Korean or Chinese talk.
Is that directed at me? I said that if everyone in Bayside thinks like Limelight (which is what he/she had indicated), I wouldn't want to live there.
Don't know why you then call me prejudiced. Unless "people like you" refers to someone else.
Soon, there will be 50 people living in the basement of that ugly building on 39th and 213th, and your house values will plummet.
Housing values will only plummet if people who think like you panic and sell in large numbers at the same time. Nothing else will cause that. Going around and exaggerating how neighborhoods will soon be collapsing, like you're doing now, is the perfect way to turn a perfectly fine neighborhood into a slum, and I don't know what your ulterior motive is. Why would you be trying to turn potential neighbors away from Bayside if you're so scared it's going downhill? It doesn't make any sense.
Housing values will only plummet if people who think like you panic and sell in large numbers at the same time. Nothing else will cause that. Going around and exaggerating how neighborhoods will soon be collapsing, like you're doing now, is the perfect way to turn a perfectly fine neighborhood into a slum, and I don't know what your ulterior motive is. Why would you be trying to turn potential neighbors away from Bayside if you're so scared it's going downhill? It doesn't make any sense.
Don't worry about his posts - too many people who live in other boroughs know that Bayside has the top schools, excellent parks, a very low crime rate, a fast commute to Penn Station, easy access to Long Island and Westchester, and a multicultural/racial home owning population that is increasingly well educated and sophisticated. Within the past 10 years, and the last 7 or 8 years, especially, we have had an influx of very well educated professional families moving in. And they are not crowding their homes, unless one considers 2 adults and 2 or 3 kids in a single family house crowded. For this reason, house prices in Bayside have remained more stable than in many other places (although they have gradually, but very slowly, come down. But not by much.)
I'll post my question here. Can anyone give feedback about the Our Lady of the Blessed Sacrament School in Bayside? I heard the school is known for teaching Italian to students as early as pre-K, which is a plus for me. However, I don't know anything about the quality of the school's academic program and learning environment. Thank you in advance.
Don't worry about his posts - too many people who live in other boroughs know that Bayside has the top schools, excellent parks, a very low crime rate, a fast commute to Penn Station, easy access to Long Island and Westchester, and a multicultural/racial home owning population that is increasingly well educated and sophisticated. Within the past 10 years, and the last 7 or 8 years, especially, we have had an influx of very well educated professional families moving in. And they are not crowding their homes, unless one considers 2 adults and 2 or 3 kids in a single family house crowded. For this reason, house prices in Bayside have remained more stable than in many other places (although they have gradually, but very slowly, come down. But not by much.)
Really, they are all educated? Did you screen them yourself before they all bought homes in Queens? You seem to show a bias towards a certain demographic, but apparently blue collar whites are uneducated and narrow minded. There are good and bad in ALL ethnicities, but you seem to only see the good that you want to see in immigrants, while seeing the bad in the old working class residents. How do you assume that all of these new residents are highly educated and sophisticated? What qualifies someone as sophisticated? The car they drive, the clothes they wear, the jobs they hold?
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