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Old 11-21-2021, 02:36 AM
 
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You'd be surprised. It's fairly easy to pull this off so long as the original tenant is in on it too.
we had lots of people get busted in the poconos for insurance fraud and tax fraud claiming pa was their primary but they really were new yorkers …the info from the new york tax authority then was turned over to the insurers who went after them too.

when you really don’t live somewhere it can be very hard to prove you do .

the burden is put on you to prove you do as opposed to them needing to prove you dont.

in this case it was not easy to prove because cell phone pings show your whereabouts,cas well as ezee pass records , banking records , credit card usage , medical records …it isnt easy to create a false trail
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Old 11-21-2021, 04:44 AM
 
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Rent controlled units generally do not have written leases as they normally weren't used back in day when these old apartments were rented.

While both rent stabilized and controlled units can give spouses certain rights, not sure how it works for the latter.

Also a rent regulated unit can only be succeeded to once, if a family member or whoever wants to try that game again in future a new lease must be created.
where did you see leases are not used on rent controlled apartments ?

i have only experience with stabilized, but i dont recall seeing anything about not being issued a lease for rent controlled even allowed
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Old 11-21-2021, 06:30 AM
 
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”Why should the landlord keep extending you this gratitude when others probably pay a significant amount more than you?”

Because it is the LAW,
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Old 11-21-2021, 06:46 AM
 
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Because it is the LAW,
it is only the law if he qualifies for it …most of us here have our doubts about that except perhaps one person who thinks their is nothing wrong with his first storyline
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Old 11-21-2021, 06:46 AM
 
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where did you see leases are not used on rent controlled apartments ?

i have only experience with stabilized, but i dont recall seeing anything about not being issued a lease for rent controlled even allowed
Rent controlled units are in multi-family housing built prior to 1947, and tenant must have continuously lived in same since 1971. Because written leases were not common prior back in the day many rent controlled tenants do not have any such document. Often considered statutory tenants, those in RC units do not sign renewal leases, but rent increases are result of a complicated system.

Only way to get a RC apartment is by succession via current tenant. Otherwise once a vacancy occurs unit either becomes RS or is deregulated.

https://hcr.ny.gov/rent-control

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent_c...#Qualification

https://www.brownstoner.com/guides/a...led-apartment/
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Old 11-21-2021, 06:50 AM
 
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Rent controlled units are in multi-family housing built prior to 1947, and tenant must have continuously lived in same since 1971. Because written leases were not common prior back in the day many rent controlled tenants do not have any such document. Often considered statutory tenants, those in RC units do not sign renewal leases, but rent increases are result of a complicated system.

Only way to get a RC apartment is by succession via current tenant. Otherwise once a vacancy occurs unit either becomes RS or is deregulated.

https://hcr.ny.gov/rent-control

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent_c...#Qualification

https://www.brownstoner.com/guides/a...led-apartment/
thanks .

i never had reason to look in to rent controlled apartments, no reason to …not the deals stabilized coops were to buy
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Old 11-21-2021, 10:43 AM
 
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Like hell I would. No way in hell could you even pay me much less offer me a discounted apartment to go live with someone for 2 years or more.
I'd rather live in the hood solo my whole life and barely get by then to spend my life living with someone waiting for them to die. Man that's really morbid when you type that out.

what??? That's his Mother!!!!!
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Old 11-21-2021, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Montreal
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what??? That's his Mother!!!!!
Another way to look at it though, strategically speaking would be to keep her well for the longest time up to and including life support while the OP lives with her. Prolong said momma’s life beyond what is considered comfortable and heed her admonitions daily with no let up. Give him a reason to keep himself under her dominion, thereby increasing his quality of life as a, momma’s boy, video game player, etc, etc… ad infinitum.

All this should lead to keeping the lease under wraps.
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Old 11-21-2021, 02:06 PM
 
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thanks .

i never had reason to look in to rent controlled apartments, no reason to …not the deals stabilized coops were to buy
Rent controlled units rarely factor into the mix.

Again when current tenant dies, unless someone can legally succeed once vacated becomes rent stabilized or deregulated.

Current tenants are usually elderly, and units busted, more so than usual long term lifer RS units.

https://www.tenantstogether.org/upda...-left-new-york

https://www.tenantstogether.org/upda...-left-new-york

https://www.forbes.com/sites/eustaci...18/06/28/rent/
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Old 11-21-2021, 03:05 PM
 
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rent controlled apartments that get freed up just become rent stabilized so there is no windfall like freeing up a stabilized coop apartment .

to be rent controlled they had to be pre the coop craze for the most part so there are no coop conversions with rent controlled tenants in them . tenants are rent stabilized who didnt buy so that is where the big money is going to be interested like the investors who bought our stabilized coops.

only about 7 or 8% of apartments are still under rent control
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