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Old 11-25-2015, 05:55 AM
 
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Thanks for the input all!

Yes - This sounds like me right now. The job I have is OK, but the stress is not worth the money. Taking days off is frowned upon, they overload me with tasks on a daily basis with short time lines, they pretty much make everyone do the job of 2 or 3 people because they have been downsizing and expect you to pick up the slack, the list goes on....

The industry I work for is a 24/7 operation, so working holidays, nights, etc. is normal for me.

I am starting a family in a couple of years and really need a job where I'm not as stressed and DO NOT bring my work home with me. Right now, even when i'm home, im expected to answer my cell phone and emails. PS... I get no OT. I can work up to 60-70 hours a week and not see any additional money. I'm tired of it.

So yes I may have been offered a promotion but now that I slept on it, i'm not excited for it anymore. It wouldn't be worth it. More money, yes, but it comes with a lot more stress!
You will never bring your work home with you, you work any amount past 40 hours and you get your OT, you go sick of your sick, you have an emergency at home, you leave work, you take your vacations, etc... No one makes you feel bad for taking days off...and the money will eventually come, and if you move up the ranks the money is certainly very good (although the stress factor comes back into play)

 
Old 11-25-2015, 06:07 AM
 
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But they are not hiring till the summer ( maybe) so why not take the promotion and save?? I'm personally getting a huge raise in July and I'm not telling my company I'm done until I absolutely have to. Being that when you start you gonna be making next to nothing I would take it and save that extra cash.
 
Old 11-25-2015, 06:34 AM
 
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But they are not hiring till the summer ( maybe) so why not take the promotion and save?? I'm personally getting a huge raise in July and I'm not telling my company I'm done until I absolutely have to. Being that when you start you gonna be making next to nothing I would take it and save that extra cash.
Yeah definitely... Do NOT quit or tell your company your leaving until the absolute last minute... The city is unpredictable... Make all your decisions and live your life as if your not going to get this job
 
Old 11-25-2015, 06:50 AM
 
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Good advice guys. I am definitely in savings mode preparing for the drop in pay if all goes well for me this year with DSNY. I am moving forward as if DSNY is not even in the picture until I sign on the dotted line and take the job.

Not a single soul at work knows I even took the test!
 
Old 11-25-2015, 08:46 AM
 
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I have a question regarding DSNY pension. If a retired SW passes away, does his or her spouse continue to collect the pension or does it end all together?
They have different options for pension payments. There is an option for reduced amount so the spouse still collects.
 
Old 11-25-2015, 02:07 PM
 
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Absolutely correct.
People skills matter and management skills matter. All mentioned which can be obtained without a degree.

Management here has very little actual management and people skills. It gets even worse the higher you go up. Companies spend millions on training management on proper ways to lead, motivate, & work together. There seems to be more condescending & intimidation than cooperation.
Imagine a place where instead of issuing complaints when things don't go their way, we have a meeting. Both sides list the issues & problems 1, 2, & 3. Then both sides solve 1, 2, & 3. That would be a nice place to work.
 
Old 11-25-2015, 02:49 PM
 
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Take the promotion anyway, you might get DQ'd or there might be 5 year hiring freeze. Who knows.
 
Old 11-26-2015, 06:45 AM
 
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Happy Thanksgiving to you and your families, current and future SanMen!
 
Old 11-27-2015, 03:57 PM
 
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Management here has very little actual management and people skills. It gets even worse the higher you go up. Companies spend millions on training management on proper ways to lead, motivate, & work together. There seems to be more condescending & intimidation than cooperation.
Imagine a place where instead of issuing complaints when things don't go their way, we have a meeting. Both sides list the issues & problems 1, 2, & 3. Then both sides solve 1, 2, & 3. That would be a nice place to work.
Let's not dissect a few that are plain jerks in the department.
I met plenty of supervisors and supers and even chiefs that do not employ intimidation tactics. Many of them are super friendly and personable, and they know exactly how to be the right executive to each individuals. Would a degree in business/management help? Perhaps. Companies spend millions on proper management training, you said? I'm sure they're tailor made for that specific company too.
DSNY is a different sort; No guarantees that someone that went to Harvard or Stanford Business schools will flourish in this setting.
 
Old 11-28-2015, 04:50 AM
 
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Does any one have the breakdown of raises for San men including the new contract percentages
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