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Nobody else will say it, so I will, Pt. 1: for all the flak Gal Gadot sustained before the release of Wonder Woman, she shocked naysayers with her warm, spirited portrayal.
True. I personally didn't have anything negative to say about Gal Gadot. I'd only seen her before in "Keeping Up with the Jones," and I thought she was charismatic, and could handle action. But I didn't know whether or not she could pull off Wonder Woman. Honestly, though, it only took about five minutes seeing her on the screen to give me confidence that she'd do okay.
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Nobody else will say it, so I will, Pt. 2: for all the flak Henry Cavill continues to sustain for his portrayal of Kal-el, Boseman's T'Challa is no less stoic.
Anyone agree?
Cavill's portrayal of Kal-el needed more fleshing-out to be credible. Everyone knows Superman and knows the demeanor of his character--it hasn't appreciably changed since George Reeves.
I understand the concept of what they wanted to do with Kal-el in this movie, but they didn't build it in his first-act origin story, and he acted it with a weird uneveness.
T'Challa's stoic tribal chief is exactly what we expected--it wasn't any different from a thousand other movie "tribal chiefs." Stereotypical "noble savage" and all that. Boseman could have taken his notes from Michael Ansara's "Cochise" (if you don't know the name, Ansara also played the Klingon "Kang" in TOS...another "noble savage" role).
Fifth weekend estimates are in. Still number one in the US. Besting Tomb Raider by a scant $4 million with Black Panther holding a better per screen average. In the run up to Holy Week, I Can Only Imagine, the story of a Christian song had the best per screen average.
Huh? That's like saying that you enjoyed the ribeye from Ruth's Chris...you really don't understand why so many other people would like it too.
It's more like saying I like chitterlings.
Now, I know why I like chitterlings and why certain other people raised in the same background as mine like chitterlings. But to be accurate, I only like chitterlings if my mother prepared them...and she's dead now...so do I really like chitterlings?
That's because I'm aware my reasons for like Black Panther are based on a particular acquired taste that I know is not universal.
That said, I think it's definitely worth discussion why different people like it, to somewhat more depth than "it's a good comic book movie."
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I think it's definitely worth discussion why different people like it, to somewhat more depth than "it's a good comic book movie."
Agreed. I liked the movie. I'll watch it again on DVD. But is it a classic? Is it even Marvel's best movie? No and no. I'm glad it was a hit. I hope there is a worthy sequel. But I'm a little baffled why it is such a monster hit.
But maybe I'm just old and out of touch with the zeitgeist. I still don't understand why Titanic was such a hit, and I absolutely hated The Matrix.
I have to admit that while I enjoyed Black Panther, I don't really see why so many other people do.
Except for the Chinese and, it appears, the Japanese.
Why is one singer better than another? Because he/she make us feel better about ourselves, being on the right side of history as it where.
Black Panther is a cultural political event showing the changing attitudes of a young generation and transcending a kid's superhero movie for the extended audience. As such the question was are the Chinese behind the Americans and Europeans in those changes. Thus the speculation was that Chinese disinterest in the political force multiplier would limit the book office.
I have to admit that while I enjoyed Black Panther, I don't really see why so many other people do.
Except for the Chinese and, it appears, the Japanese.
Yeah, the film had a HUGE drop (88%) in the second week in China. Tomb Raider beat it soundly at the Chinese box office (which is the second largest to us, in the world). Here (in the US), BP beat out Tomb Raider even in its 5th week. Although the actual film ratings in China are above average (between 6-7/10). It's just not viewed as anything "epic" over there. I also saw some YouTube clips at a premier in China where most of the fans had positive reviews, although the numbers don't lie.
It just goes to show that people resonate with different things. The critiques I read were that they found it was drowned down in the political issues, rather than focusing on pure action (the way Thor Ragnorak or other Marvel films do). Those same political issues are why so many people here (and even in this thread) have pointed to the movie being epic (and being more than just a movie).
It goes to show that people have different views....so you are correct when you mention that you don't see why many other people like it.
There are definitely some (like the Chinese), as you point out, who didn't like it all that much (at least on the scale that most other countries fans did). And that is their right. Can't please everyone.
The majority of world already spoke with the box office numbers that they really liked it, so I don't understand why people are still analyzing (and questioning) why someone didn't like it or how much money it made in this country or that country. It was a worldwide (overall) success. All the deep analyses seem redundant at this point.
Now, I know why I like chitterlings and why certain other people raised in the same background as mine like chitterlings. But to be accurate, I only like chitterlings if my mother prepared them...and she's dead now...so do I really like chitterlings?
That's because I'm aware my reasons for like Black Panther are based on a particular acquired taste that I know is not universal.
That said, I think it's definitely worth discussion why different people like it, to somewhat more depth than "it's a good comic book movie."
It’s “chitlins”.
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