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Old 08-12-2021, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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You WERE pointing your finger at out of staters, and you WERE scapegoating. Massachusetts still has a couple million unvaxxed "riff raff" residents, who are a far greater threat to you right now than one or two people flying in from Arkansas or Mississippi.
You can't infer my intent. There is no doubt that plane travel works counter to containment. That's how this thing spread so fast globally in 2020.

But I do stand by the original statement. Check out the origins of the P-town cluster and get back to us.
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Old 08-12-2021, 01:58 PM
 
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I think anyone can say religious reasons...and I don't think you can question it.

And I disagree that it's a legit reason. This is a public health emergency.

You're probably right that it can't be questioned, but you would think that there "has to be a way" for them to prove fraud if John O'Toole from Norwood shows up at work one day claiming to be an Amish or Orthodox Jew, and is then seen parking his Explorer at Lowe's the following Saturday.



And to clarify, by being exempt I do not think that means that the safety of co-workers or the public should be put in jeopardy as a result. Employers should provide whatever accommodations that are reasonably possible, to keep these people isolated from others.
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Old 08-12-2021, 02:22 PM
 
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There's an outbreak in Chicago form lollapalooza now too. Shocking.
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Old 08-12-2021, 02:26 PM
 
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That's a legit reason, but how many people truly fall under that? Amish? Orthodox Jews??? Probably not a huge factor in most companies. And they should have to provide some kind of proof.
Only two major religions practiced in the US have issues with vaccines: Christian Scientists and Dutch Reformed Church.

But the CS church has made clear that it is up to members to decide whether or not to vaccinate and:

"For more than a century, our denomination has counseled respect for public health authorities and conscientious obedience to the laws of the land, including those requiring vaccination. Christian Scientists report suspected communicable disease, obey quarantines, and strive to cooperate with measures considered necessary by public health officials. We see this as a matter of basic Golden Rule ethics and New Testament love."

As for DRC:

This denomination has a tradition of declining immunizations. Some members decline vaccination on the basis that it interferes with divine providence. However, others within the faith accept immunization as a gift from God to be used with gratitude.

Islam around the world tends to avoid vaccines as they may have pork derivatives in them but in North America, it's not an issue.
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Old 08-12-2021, 02:27 PM
 
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Tough. Time for them to take offense and take action. I did mean "riff raff" as those who are opting to be unvaxxed, regardless of which state they come from. We just have fewer of them in MA (#2 in the country) than anywhere else.
would you put the unvaccinated in a camp? a detention center? what activities would you have planned for them?
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Old 08-12-2021, 02:29 PM
 
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There's an outbreak in Chicago form lollapalooza now too. Shocking.
Right now it's 203 cases which is a number that was expected considering the size of the audience and the vaccine or negative test requirement.

I'm waiting for the Sturgis numbers.
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Old 08-12-2021, 02:31 PM
 
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I went to a store today and struck up a conversation with a black guy on what he thought about the vaccine passports. he said he was ok with it. i told him it's discrimination and he said how so? i said well black people are less likely to get vaccinated. he was obviously a black guy who leans to the left and he said he did not believe black people are less likely to get vaccinated. i should of brought up religious discrimination. he probably does not like me saying black people are less likely to get vaccinated. I wanted to change his mind but it did not work.

Massachusetts has gone so far to the left it ain't funny.
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Old 08-12-2021, 02:32 PM
 
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Right now it's 203 cases which is a number that was expected considering the size of the audience and the vaccine or negative test requirement.

I'm waiting for the Sturgis numbers.
how about we only concern ourselves with deaths? someone could test positive and have no symptoms.

the sturgis event last year did not produce the outcome people thought it would. that's where freedom lives that and Florida. there are surges but the numbers go down naturally just like Florida.
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Old 08-12-2021, 02:40 PM
 
Location: The ghetto
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I went to a store today and struck up a conversation with a black guy on what he thought about the vaccine passports. he said he was ok with it. i told him it's discrimination and he said how so? i said well black people are less likely to get vaccinated. he was obviously a black guy who leans to the left and he said he did not believe black people are less likely to get vaccinated. i should of brought up religious discrimination. he probably does not like me saying black people are less likely to get vaccinated. I wanted to change his mind but it did not work.

Massachusetts has gone so far to the left it ain't funny.

Unbelievable.

Vaccine hesitancy among black people has nothing to do with left or right. It's because of the Tuskegee experiment.
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Old 08-12-2021, 02:43 PM
 
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Unbelievable.

Vaccine hesitancy among black people has nothing to do with left or right. It's because of the Tuskegee experiment.
yes I know about that that's why I thought he would know about the Tuskegee experiment but I doubt he did. I asked my doctor when the pandemic would be over he said "I don't know I am not a politician." ha ha famous youtube joke. "a virus so deadly you have to be tested to see if you have it, a vaccine so safe you have to be coerced into getting it."
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