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Old 06-24-2020, 01:33 PM
 
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Vitruses mutate and that is in part what makes them so successful. COVID-19 is an RNA virus and they typically mutate more frequently than other viruses such as herpes or HPV. COVID-19 has mutated but at a relatively low rate, which bodes well for future vaccines.

Mutations of any virus MAY translate into meaningful impact on infectivity, good or bad. The scripps reference shows a variant that is more stable and likely more infectious. However, just because it is more infectious to cells in a lab setting does not necessarily mean that it is more infectious/lethal in people.
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Old 06-24-2020, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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I still can't get grocery delivery and I *am* high risk. I look a few times a week.
I've been using a very reliable boutique grocery service...PM me if you're interested as I don't want them to get overwhelmed.
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Old 06-25-2020, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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Vitruses mutate and that is in part what makes them so successful. COVID-19 is an RNA virus and they typically mutate more frequently than other viruses such as herpes or HPV. COVID-19 has mutated but at a relatively low rate, which bodes well for future vaccines.

Mutations of any virus MAY translate into meaningful impact on infectivity, good or bad. The scripps reference shows a variant that is more stable and likely more infectious. However, just because it is more infectious to cells in a lab setting does not necessarily mean that it is more infectious/lethal in people.
The likelihood of any given virus mutating to become MORE lethal is very, very low. The overwhelming probability is that this virus, as with all viruses, become weaker over time.

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Old 06-25-2020, 07:30 AM
 
Location: The ghetto
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38k new positive cases in the US yesterday. That's the highest amount ever.
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Old 06-25-2020, 07:38 AM
 
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But MA is still good.
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Old 06-25-2020, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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38k new positive cases in the US yesterday. That's the highest amount ever.
Deaths at lowest 7-day average since March, and continuing to decline. This is fantastic news.
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Old 06-25-2020, 07:50 AM
 
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38k new positive cases in the US yesterday. That's the highest amount ever.
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Deaths at lowest 7-day average since March, and continuing to decline. This is fantastic news.
If the national death rate does not spike up over the next month or two then it is safe to assume one of two scenarios.

(1) Newer treatments are more effective at facilitating recovery.
(2) The virus is mutating into a weaker variant.

Either way it means we are on the way out of the pandemic.
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Old 06-25-2020, 08:01 AM
 
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If the national death rate does not spike up over the next month or two then it is safe to assume one of two scenarios.

(1) Newer treatments are more effective at facilitating recovery.
(2) The virus is mutating into a weaker variant.

Either way it means we are on the way out of the pandemic.
Hospitalizations are up, so as you state the next few weeks will provide greater clarity as to whether lethality is down - whether due to a weakening virus or more informed care.

Either way, as someone actively working on med devices designed for the most dire patients, I urge high risk persons to not become complacent. You do not, for example, wish to end up on an ECMO device (Google it). This includes people in their 50s who are obese and type 2; i.e., it's not as simple as age.

If you're in your 20s, attend as many Tinder 'dates' as you wish ... just don't visit Grandma after.
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Old 06-25-2020, 08:05 AM
 
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School opening guidelines released today. Baker expected to talk a bit more about it today.

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/coron...eased/2148817/
https://www.boston.com/news/coronavi...lines-covid-19

EDIT: Removed the requirements mentioned in the articles. The articles are wrong (surprise surprise). Here's the actual guidelines. Read through it to see for yourself what the requirements are

https://d279m997dpfwgl.cloudfront.ne...idance-vFF.pdf

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Old 06-25-2020, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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If the national death rate does not spike up over the next month or two then it is safe to assume one of two scenarios.

(1) Newer treatments are more effective at facilitating recovery.
(2) The virus is mutating into a weaker variant.

Either way it means we are on the way out of the pandemic.
Or that it's seasonal, as coronaviruses are, just like Sars cov in 2003. I'd guess probably all three are true.
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